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  1. Blond Bombshell

    Blond Bombshell Well-Known Member

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    she must be finished now, breaking her own covid rules was laughable but this goes way beyond that.
     
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    She is a wierd boiler that one.

    As they say now, (a pity mind, as I like the Scots mesell), Scotland is now a banana republic without the bananas.
     
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    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Never understood how the jocks could be in favour of someone whose sole focus was another referendum against a backdrop of the worst drug problem in Europe, falling education standards, the Scottish NHS going tits up and a bloody world-wide pandemic! She should be in a loony bin.
     
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    Wondered what happened to Jimmy Krankie. I assumed he'd moved to Oz :emoticon-0105-wink: <laugh>
     
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  8. Guy Incognito

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    A lot of it was anti Westminster and anti tory attitudes, but chuck in a bit of anti Englishness for good measure, then keep going on about how much better off Scotland would be as an independent country (subtly shifting the blame for Scotlands problems to Westminster and the tories) which hides how that they've been in charge there for 14 years and seen declines and problems across the board on their watch.
     
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    Win win for the opposition up here. She stays, all moral authority is gone and the election campaign writes itself. She goes, the rest of the SNP are proper heedbangers.
     
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    Amazing how the life expectancy for men in West Glasgow is now worse than Lesotho.

    The answer's IndyRef2. Now what's the question?
     
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    Leave the nice lady alone you rotten buggers, she's just allowed the hotels to reopen in time for me and my good lady to celebrate our twice cancelled golden wedding anniversary and were going to Mull, she can do what she likes at the end of May.
     
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    Ive heard that she's a horrible person in real life. Both Sturgeon and Elaine Smith. Salmond is another horrible person who's only makes friends with people to push Scottish independence, and supposedly knows where the bodies are buried.
     
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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    its Scotland there will be nee springs in the mattress and nowt but porridge in the morn
     
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    you forgot and likes making friends with bags of easy virtue
     
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    Goes with out saying mate!

    On a serious note, the video of his defence counsel talking about that case was damming. Basically said he's an unpleasant bloke with questionable behaviour who probably did some of what he was accused of, but was stitched up by his own party for political reasons.

    Years ago a couple of my Scottish friends said to me that the SNP under him and Sturgeon did a lot of covering up on damaging stories about members, but would throw them under 5he bus to protect others when they felt they had to. They smeared opponents and used the cybernats to take people down, and also cover up allegations of fraud, bullying and shady practices and deals. If half of what I was told us true, the whole lot of them are screwed.
     
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    that Ian Blackford is not clean either and always whinging for more cash, how would they manage independence they have spoilt every thing else
     
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  19. polyphemus

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    I love the highlands of Scotland, and I will be sad if they are removed from The UK, (politically rather than physically).
    I have the best of memories of the Scots I have met over the years including members of the KOSB regiment I was, improbable as it may seem, billeted with for a time while in the RAF.
    I also had the priveledge of Serving there for a time.
    So, I'm Pro Scots and Scotland.
    However I distrust all true fanatics. (The term FAN is applied to followers of Football Clubs or indeed any other sport or entertainment and doesn't seem to me to be the same thing).
    Rather it is the Political Fanatics that worry me most.

    Which brings me to Mrs Sturgeon from the north, and who knows our region well from childhoods visits to her Granny in Pallion.
    Her Crusade for 'independance' has it seems taken over her life.

    The last vote was supposed to be the last one for a generation.
    But as soon as her view was rejected, she was itching for another go.
    And I'm guessing that she will continue to campaign, irrespective of how many times the vote goes against her, until she gets a YES.
    Then, no matter what polls may say, she will never agree to another vote.
    I can not help but wonder WHY , when devolution gives control to the Scottish Parliament over much of the policies that are relevant to the daily lives of her electorate,

    She claims that rule from London is intolerable. Too far away.
    She claims to want to re-join The EU.
    Rule from Brussels which is even further away.
    But much would need to change with the EU before they could agree to accepting Scotland.
    For a start ALL members must agree.
    Will Spain agree to a precedent that might/would be used against them by their Catalonian population.
    Answers on a postcard please!!!

    Then there is the Economy.
    At present the rest of UK subsidises Scotland.
    This enables them to run a very 'Social' system, by far the best in UK in terms of youth at one end with frre University places and at the other end free care for the elderly.
    EU Rules would require a period of austerity and it's hard to imagine these surviving in the highly unlikely case of their being admitted.

    They do of course have OIL.
    But thats not the asset it once was.
    Oil Companies are diversifying into renewable energy sources.
    Before the last Referendum One of the leading SNP lights was quoted as claiming that come Independence, Scotland would have strong Finances because, 'We will squeeze the Oil Companies till their pips squeak'.
    Following that election the oil price fell through the floor and the Oil Companies paid very little to the treasury.
    Had they been Independent and relying on oil irevenues they would have been broke.

    Lets get up to date.
    Could an Independent Scotland have coped with Covid?
    The vast amounts that have been needed, so far, to keep people going.
    Well, IF their credit rating was good enough, they too could have borrowed cheaply.
    If their credit rating was poor, it would have been a struggle.
    There are more questions but they all come down to cash.
    Pensions for Civil Servants.
    Armed Services, what allocation.
    Share of National Debt to be taken on.
    Feel free to expand this list.

    If we come to the rather hilarious spat with the former leader, Mr Salmond it now seems as if Mr S has a point.
    The SNP have tried very hard to keep files that should have been published, under wraps.
    After being forced to release them they show that what Mr S claimed was true.
    And now The Investigating Commitee has come out against her.
    At best this was clumsy and inept by the SNP.

    An election due.

    Interesting.
     
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  20. Blyth_bucaneer

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    ........whatever it takes to get Sturgeon off the box, could talk a fcuking glass eye to sleep.
     
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