Handbags are offensive?

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DMD said:
Nope, you've made the self and same assumption that the guy got sacked for. By your standards, you are an offensive sexist and you have no argument against it and must meekly accept whatever consequences are felt fit.
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I think he should be made to watch looped tapes of Bernard Mannering. On second thoughts that would be enjoyable, make it tapes of right on, archly leftie "comedians" from the misnamed Comedy Club.
 
DMD said:
Nope, you've made the self and same assumption that the guy got sacked for. By your standards, you are an offensive sexist and you have no argument against it and must meekly accept whatever consequences are felt fit.
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What?! The offence stems from the reason that what he said is a known trope that infers the footballers were “acting like women arguing”. That’s the stereotype and the basis for the derogatory nature of the comment.

It isn’t open to interpretation, that’s literally the meaning of the saying. So whatever crap point you’re making about gender fluidity and fashion fell flat about three posts ago.
 
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Steven Toast said:
What?! The offence stems from the reason that what he said is a known trope that infers the footballers were “acting like women arguing”. That’s the stereotype and the basis for the derogatory nature of the comment.

It isn’t open to interpretation, that’s literally the meaning of the saying. So whatever crap point you’re making about gender fluidity and fashion fell flat about three posts ago.
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Stop digging you offensive sexist. The society on this board has spoken. By your own standards, you can only sit quietly and accept whatever punishment is coming your way. You attributed handbags to a specific gender role. There is no ambiguity.


Them's your own rules, so you should be happy to live by them.
 
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DMD said:
Stop digging you offensive sexist. The society on this board has spoken. By your own standards, you can only sit quietly and accept whatever punishment is coming your way. You attributed handbags to a specific gender role. There is no ambiguity.


Them's your own rules, so you should be happy to live by them.
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No, you’ve spoken. How is that analogous to society? Man, even if this was tongue in cheek it’s wearing thin.
Attributing a stereotype to a saying that was invented on the basis of that exact stereotype is nothing other than objective.

I’m happy to live by the rules and norms of society, because I can accept changes and understand why they occur. Sometimes the changes are things I don’t agree with, but that’s life.
 
Steven Toast said:
No, you’ve spoken. How is that analogous to society? Man, even if this was tongue in cheek it’s wearing thin.
Attributing a stereotype to a saying that was invented on the basis of that exact stereotype is nothing other than objective.

I’m happy to live by the rules and norms of society, because I can accept changes and understand why they occur. Sometimes the changes are things I don’t agree with, but that’s life.
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Stop digging you hypocritical offensive sexist. You are as guilty as the guy that got sacked.

At least have the courage of your convictions.
 
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DMD said:
Stop digging you hypocritical offensive sexist. You are as guilty as the guy that got sacked.

At least have the courage of your convictions.
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A concept like this isn’t beyond you? Is it?

Well if it is, ****ed if I’m explaining it to you.
 
Ernie Shackleton said:
Idioms are by their very nature linguistically removed from the literal interpretation which spawned them. They sustain meaning via usage which then renders them a separate linguistic entity over time. It really is absurd to reconnect them with their original derivation and serves only to demonstrate the ignorance of those who claim offence from hearing them.

Handbags (at ten paces) has been in common usage within football since at least the mid-eighties and, as Tommo's legal team will quickly establish, holds meaning distinct from being a potentially offensive word due to the offended person assuming he was using it in a way that is derogatory to women.

The phrase Rule of Thumb is similar but more ancient. Potentially this could be much more offensive to women than Handbags but due to the fact that it's original meaning has long fallen out of usage, is not universally understood or isn't easily derived from a mere reading of the words, then no one ever appears to get offended by it.


Words and phrases evolve. Language and meaning changes over time. Getting offended due to not understanding this says more about the offendee than the offender.




Anyway, I'm away to have a really gay old time this afternoon. Hopefully it'll be both sick and wicked.
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This should be a conversation ender, Ernie.
But alas, I see there are more pages.
 
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DMD said:
You've made a total arse of your self with the hypocrisy of your response once you made the same faux pas as the guy this thread is the topic of.

Your take away should be to stick to the topic at hand.
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Yeah, pop psych doesn’t work either. There is no faux pas, Regardless of historical guff or any excuse to allow such phrases to slip through, the root of the saying is perfectly clear.

If you don’t think the phrase “handbags” infers a female stereotype, fine. But it does, regardless of how you want to plea because the basis of that phrase is rooted in sexism. What you think and what actually exists in reality are in fact two distinct things and trying to make out I was being hysterical or daft doesn’t change that, no matter how aloof or right you want to appear.

Deal with it.
 
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