S.A.F.C. - the future
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Absolute bollocks. Bog off
I don't think they can vote to end the season. Different when there was furlough to avoid wage payments, especially when many were going to be out of contract. As it stands they'll still need to honour contracts, they'll still have to pay the normal overheads. They'll basically have the same costs that they have now but they'd lose any TV money and any streaming money. I don't see how mothballing could make sense tbh
I thought this was a open SAFC forum..where people post info or discuss SAFC matters..not get slated
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....lubs-could-fold-without-government-bailout-mp
Interesting - look who has come up with the bullet points of the plan in this story
He's a typical slimy Etonian **** who's in it for himself... there's no morals with those guys.. he knows his mate Donald is finished and won't think twice of shafting him, he paid buttons/nowt for his share and knows it'll be worth something if he can hang onto it - regardless if he has to cast his mate off to do so.
Tell you what Smug, for someone who supposedly does PR as a day job he is very unsuited to it from his comments whilst here.
I dread to think how many of us would have been out of work had we demonstrated such a lack of integrity, nous and empathy in our jobs.
I’d have been peddled long since.
Mind, it's mental when Collins says "Yes it be would be nice if football could help itself, but it won't be able to do it". Wrong. It could do it, it just doesn't want to . The PFA have loads of funds (and clubs going bust affects them). The Premier league is ****ing loaded, they could easily bail the EFL out (whether they should is a different argument, but the money is certainly there to do it). It's not that they won't be able, they just don't want to. I'm not convinced the government should be getting involved tbh, there's other industries needing help that aren't taking loans then spending £200k a week or whatever on Gareth Bale
I think it's inevitable clubs will go under, bailout or no. And this is an industry that outside of the prem, and possibly within it, overspends. Can't be spending millions on agents and multi-grands a week on players then cry for a handout imo. I don't think I'm the only person who feels football needed a financial reset although I'd have rather seen something a bit less brutal than what I'm anticipating will happen. I also think the Champo clubs may find having a wage cap in place will be one of the conditions of any bail out from Boris' lot, if they even get one.
Mind I've said for ages, they need to look at this hopelessly outdated 3pm black out. Let every game be shown and the TV revenue would increase massively. The PL clubs would likely agree to feed more money down to compensate the smaller clubs in return. As far as I'm concerned, the people who actually want to watch a match so will go to Fleetwood would go regardless. The armchair "fans" who just want to watch Liverpool wouldn't watch a small club instead. Hell, there's so many streams nowadays that if anyone wants to watch any game they can. Currently if that's what's keeping clubs afloat it's failing miserably. They need to look to do something new and that's an obvious one. Imagine if safc could get revenue from every away game, even share it with the home club, there's loads would pay for it. I just think its a pathetic rule. If I can't get to a Sunderland away game I'm not going to watch someone else, I'm streaming it, or listening to commentary
I think there's an ineveitibility about smaller clubs with low crowd figures finding it more and more of a struggle to survive, especially as the wealth gap between the divisions grow. BBC gossip column has Man Utd interested in Kante but he'd have to take a cut from his £300,000 a week wages. That's £14 mil a year man, for kicking a ****ing ball. So even with Covid ****ing everything, the entire Football League needs 15 Kantes wages to survive a whole year with no paying customers. I find that completely mental tbh.
I understand the Prem wantng to keep as much money from it's braodcasting to itself but if we want to carry on with having this many professional clubs operating there has to be a bigger flow of that money coming down the pyramid. And again, I'm not having they can't afford it. They spent £236 million in agents fees last season ffs. More than what the EFL are asking for a bail out. I think that's just as mental as having 15 Kante's paying for it.
Think I'm right in saying the agents keep all their fees as well. Imagine if they just said there was a flat 5% commission for the good of the pyramid, there's £12m right there . ****ing hate agents, there has to be some way of keeping some of that money in the game
Aye, apart from tax an that, all the money paid to agents is gone from the game and into their wallets. Only way to get a handle on it would be a FIFA ruling I guess stating a maximum fee for any agent involved in a transfer but they're going nowhere near that imo.I'm not even sure they could, might be a restriction of trade of the agent. And I got the numbers wrong, Not £236 mil, actually £263 mil. But the clubs are getting better as that was a massive £13 mil saving on the £276 mil they spent the previous season. That's £539 mil spent on agents in 2 years. If I was the government after being asked for a bail out I'd be pointing to them numbers and asking what the **** is going on in your heads?
You two are using common sense ...
... that's where you're going wrong.
... that's where you're going wrong.
Bargains are always snapped up, the club has been for sale since Donald bought it.
Football isn't a normal business as quite a few have discovered.
Still it's very hard to believe a hard nosed businessman, like Ashley, would buy NUFC thinking it owns SJP, or did he? If they did it would be more viable as they could sell a massive chunk of prime inner city land and build a better modern stadium elsewhere.
As it is anyone buying the club already has millions to spend on a crumbling stadium that can barely be improved and they'll never own. I remember the excitement when a fabulous new stadium was proposed, by John Hall, and the whole Geordie Nation was up in arms when the council or whoever blocked the plans. I have a vague memory of some old biddy called Doris Potter being at the forefront of the campaign to prevent it being built. Her name was spat out, on Tyneside, at the time
From 1966, when Roker Park was given the World Cup instead of SJP, the ground was unloved and deemed inadequate.
When the Mags had to accept they wouldn't be getting their shiny new superbowl they decided SJP was actually a cathedral and their spiritual home they adored and never wanted to leave. This was immediately after they'd claimed it was unfit for King Kev and his title chasing heroes.
SAFC may have been a bargain, when Donald came in, but he's singlehandedly changed all that. He's thrown away almost every advantage we had. He's lost the likes of Maja and not adequately replaced him, the parachute payments, our 'debt free' status, our momentum, the trust of the supporters, etc.
We were a bargain and would be at £20m but not twice that figure. The Peterborough chairman is simply trying to say we should be walking the league and 'look how well I'm doing competing with such a massive club'. With Donald here the club is worth less week on week and he knows it. Only his ego and greed is keeping him here but hopefully not for much longer.
Edit: Just saw this https://www.google.com/amp/s/theath...unwritten-newcastle-planned-own-san-siro/?amp
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