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  1. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

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    'Staging the game with fans would have cost the Allams'......you posted that earlier.
    Of course there was a cost involved because of all the procedures put in place beforehand.
     
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    IF that is true then maybe the Allams can learn a lesson from it. If you constantly act like petty vindictive childish ****s people and organisations are unlikely to help you when you need it.
     
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  3. Ric Glasgow

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    Can you give a reasoned response as to why this was deemed safer?
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  4. DMD

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    My twopennerth, and I'm guessing. There are national rules. The Council can only act within them. If the game had gone ahead, the Council would be the ones held responsible, the market was allowed under national rules the same as other shops and retail outlets, so no comeback on the Council.
     
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  5. Trumpton Tiger.

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    That is the get out of jail card to hide behind obviously but how come the other seven councils took the risk ?
     
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    Because they think the football clubs are an important part of the city unlike the council in the rugby town of Hull?
     
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    No idea.
     
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    No idea. Is that Hull council's way of handling things?
     
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    No idea.
     
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    Castro banging on about how superior Norwich is again
     
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  11. Trumpton Tiger.

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    So are you claiming that Mr Sagman, Safety @ Emergency Planning Manager at HCC and Chair of the KCom Advisory Group makes decisions based on levels of vindictiveness ?
     
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  12. Trumpton Tiger.

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    He's still waiting for an answer though from those supposedly in the know...
     
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  13. Barchullona

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    Not mentioning it. Though it goes without saying. Got relegated and have 22,000 season ticket holders, a sell out of all those available. 95% ground capacity for the last 12 years including a spell in Div 3. The only times not a full house was when away teams didn't sell their allocation.
    Their game got the go ahead as did Middlesbrough. Would love to know why it was possible there but not in the pioneering city of Hull.
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    I'm forgetting nothing and I'm obviously aware they wanted the fans to attend and they they knew they'd make no money from it, I've never said otherwise.
     
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    So give us some facts then? Why did games go ahead in other areas with a much higher infection rate then the hull area for example? You could easily stop the speculation....

    Why don't you tell us why it's deemed safe to have things like the council run Sunday market on Walton Street which has almost zero control on masks, social distancing and test/trace etc. But a fully controlled event of 600 people in an open air 25k seater stadium with all the appropriate measures in place?
     
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  16. Trumpton Tiger.

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    so what are we arguing about ?
    Saturday was a trial one off.
    The club bent over backwards to get it on and the council knocked it back.
    Which puts back the chances of fans getting back into the ground on Oct 2nd.
    If I were City I'd be asking Mr Sagman what exactly do they have to do to gain his approval ? Because they couldn't have done anymore.
     
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    How do you know they couldn't do anymore, and 'bent over backwards'?
    The only thing I have been able to see they actually did was volunteer. Do you know what else they did?
    According to Luton the EFL had given no advice on what plans needed to be in place, despite being asked, so when they were informed they had been selected they decided there wasn't enough time to get ready. Sounded like they volunteered with no information as to what would be needed, so I assume City will have been the same.
    What was it that City had done before they were informed that meant that they were more ready than Luton?
     
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    Other clubs in areas with worse infection rates got the go ahead.
     
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  19. Chazz Rheinhold

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    Nailed it
     
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  20. Trumpton Tiger.

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    Luton chucked the towel in straightaway and didn't take part. They made no effort to take part in the trial.
    City had put the precautions in place, even at the short notice given by the EFL, because they wanted to take part. They also want fans back in the stadium on Oct 2nd. You believe me or you don't, but why would they go to the trouble of issuing invites if they expected to be knocked back ? The match programmes had even gone to print.
     
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