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  1. BlackAndAmberGambler

    BlackAndAmberGambler Well-Known Member

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    Imagine the **** you'd get these days if you gave a ragman some old rags and some bones.
     
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  2. DMD

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    It could have saved a Muswell Hill plumber getting a nasty shock if they still did.
     
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    I am happy to share anything I can, and give reasoned responses to anything on this forum. You only need to ask originallambrettaman who knows me well. The only thing I can’t do is disclose anything discussed at meetings unless it is minuted and in the public domain. That is what the Freedom of Information Act is for. I fully support the return of fans to the KCOM and will do everything within the guidelines and legislation to make it happen.
     
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    Cheers bud.

    I'll just nudge the only genuine question I've seen asked, which relates to the events around the pulling out of the covid trial.

     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    I can confirm that I do know him and that he’s a decent bloke, who I’m sure will be able to shed some light on how the decision was made.
     
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    Only decent....
     
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    ITK poster says it was one woman who works for the council used her position to get back at the Allams to the detriment of hundreds of their workers and potentially thousands of supporters. Nothing more than petty vindictiveness.
     
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  8. Sagman

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    Just goes to prove that these forums are a place for speculation, opinion and not facts
     
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  9. Trumpton Tiger.

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    ........................and red herrings.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Staging the game with fans would have cost the Allams, if the council wanted to be vindictive, then letting it go ahead would have been a better option.

    Sagman is Safety & Emergency Planning Manager at Hull City Council and is chair of the KCOM Safety Advisory Group, he obviously knows more about how the decision was made than anyone else on here.
     
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    So you're stating categorically,as fact,that the Allams didn't spend any money organising and researching the event?
     
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    I haven't said anything about what the Allams did or didn't spend on organising anything.
     
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    You stated that the event "would have cost the Allams" and if the Council wanted to be vindictive then letting it go ahead would've been a better option?

    My point was,and still is,the money would've already been spent.
     
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    FACT
     
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    I assume (not a FACT) that he was talking about staffing costs which are obviously proportionally higher for less supporters, and I imagine would have been high to manage things too
     
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    Any figures on infection rates compared to Hull where games did go ahead like Middlesbrough and Norwich? And why, if they were similar or worse, they got the go ahead and we didn't? Also why Walton St Market where there was less social distancinng and an absence of masks could go ahead?
     
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    Exactly, the club would receive no extra income as members have already paid and I believe the bars have to be closed for the pilot events, so there' s no extra income at all. And though there were only about 600 fans due to be invited, they were to be spread across the whole ground and distancing had to be enforced, so it was likely that almost a full compliment of stewards would be required.
     
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    Same applies to the other places where games went ahead.
     
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    According to you.
     
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    The club wanted the game played and you are forgetting they were invited by the EFL, only one of 10 clubs as a trial run. It was never intended to make money from it.
    Out of the ten, two clubs declined because of the work involved leaving eight other clubs, only one council stepped into to put the mockers on it.
     
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