All or Nothing: The Spoiler Thread
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So next time a player isnt getting picked by a manager...let’s just take the managers word for it instead of swallowing the hyperbole of the press and other fans along with feeding ones own narrative
Eriksen wasn’t getting picked because “he has got nothing in his head for the fight” or words to that affect yet folk were lambasting Jose for not picking him when we needed something else on the pitch
something to bare in mind for the forthcoming season when fat boy Tanguy isnt getting picked
Eriksen wasn’t getting picked because “he has got nothing in his head for the fight” or words to that affect yet folk were lambasting Jose for not picking him when we needed something else on the pitch
something to bare in mind for the forthcoming season when fat boy Tanguy isnt getting picked
Nobody was saying that though, were they?
Poch was getting lambasted for not starting him against Villa, but by the time the ubermensch arrived plenty of people on here, Cartilage Free Captain and r/coys had given up on him due to his general lack of giving a **** that frankly went back to the second half of the previous season and the belief - since pretty much confirmed by the doc - somebody had got in his ear about a move only for that move to never materialise
To be fair on Eriksen as well, I’m pretty sure Jose says in that clip that he was training as well as anyone else and had been professional throughout the process. It’s more likely that Jose just knew that the player would leave either in Jan or at the end of the season and wanted to think more long term rather than build a team reliant on a player who he wouldn’t have, sooner or later.
On Rose, I can see on a purely objective level why a senior player would be annoyed at a youngster playing out of position being picked ahead of him. And because we don’t get to see all of every training session, maybe there is something to his comments about players training badly and still getting picked. Favouritism exists in all managers after all, nobody is entirely free of blind spots.
But given Rose’s past I think he went into that meeting with a desire to force a move away, not to get his place in the team back. And he certainly succeeded. Don’t necessarily agree with his actions, just my thoughts on the matter.
On Rose, I can see on a purely objective level why a senior player would be annoyed at a youngster playing out of position being picked ahead of him. And because we don’t get to see all of every training session, maybe there is something to his comments about players training badly and still getting picked. Favouritism exists in all managers after all, nobody is entirely free of blind spots.
But given Rose’s past I think he went into that meeting with a desire to force a move away, not to get his place in the team back. And he certainly succeeded. Don’t necessarily agree with his actions, just my thoughts on the matter.
I’ll remind you when you turn on the manager for not picking fat **** just because he had potential at his former club and we seem to be struggling for creativity on the pitch
and yes people were saying that...you’ll have to find your own examples if you need conviction.
I know what I read and see
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You'll remind me that I didn't use a blatant strawman argument about something that happened a year previously? Okay, but I'm not sure how that will support your argument...
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That team talk at HT v City was beautiful
every week it’s the same message - mentality
let’s hope something clicks in the players heads this season
every week it’s the same message - mentality
let’s hope something clicks in the players heads this season
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It was the fact he made the point about the yellows, that’s what I loved. That’s dark arts football. Some like it, some don’t, I fully appreciate that but for me personally, I love it.
totally...you can tell his desire is on a different level...he’s obsessed with winning. No doubt as you will have guessed, I also, am a great admirer of the dark arts
The final episode of Amazon Prime's fly-on-the-wall documentary of Tottenham's 2019-20 season depicts a meeting between chairman Daniel Levy and the club's record-signing, Tanguy Ndombele.
A sulky Ndombele, aided by a player liaison officer, complains to Levy that there is more to his absence from the team than meets the eye.
"For three months I trained hard," Ndombele tells Levy in French. "Everybody says I trained really well, but if I don't play it means there must be something else."
Levy advises Ndombele, through player liaison Roberto Balbontin, that it is normal for players to struggle in their first season but warns him: "Only you can turn this around."
Balbontin translates: "Like he [Levy] said, Tanguy, it's for you to overcome this thing. The first year is very complicated my friend. Put a line under it. This is the future, that is the past and look ahead."
As much as I can't stand Levy for his transfer activity...I've got some new found respect for him in the way he stands up for the club over the players
A sulky Ndombele, aided by a player liaison officer, complains to Levy that there is more to his absence from the team than meets the eye.
"For three months I trained hard," Ndombele tells Levy in French. "Everybody says I trained really well, but if I don't play it means there must be something else."
Levy advises Ndombele, through player liaison Roberto Balbontin, that it is normal for players to struggle in their first season but warns him: "Only you can turn this around."
Balbontin translates: "Like he [Levy] said, Tanguy, it's for you to overcome this thing. The first year is very complicated my friend. Put a line under it. This is the future, that is the past and look ahead."
As much as I can't stand Levy for his transfer activity...I've got some new found respect for him in the way he stands up for the club over the players
The final episode of Amazon Prime's fly-on-the-wall documentary of Tottenham's 2019-20 season depicts a meeting between chairman Daniel Levy and the club's record-signing, Tanguy Ndombele.
A sulky Ndombele, aided by a player liaison officer, complains to Levy that there is more to his absence from the team than meets the eye.
"For three months I trained hard," Ndombele tells Levy in French. "Everybody says I trained really well, but if I don't play it means there must be something else
Levy advises Ndombele, through player liaison Roberto Balbontin, that it is normal for players to struggle in their first season but warns him: "Only you can turn this around."
Balbontin translates: "Like he [Levy] said, Tanguy, it's for you to overcome this thing. The first year is very complicated my friend. Put a line under it. This is the future, that is the past and look ahead."
As much as I can't stand Levy for his transfer activity...I've got some new found respect for him in the way he stands up for the club over the players. Saw it with how he dealt with Eriksen too.
A sulky Ndombele, aided by a player liaison officer, complains to Levy that there is more to his absence from the team than meets the eye.
"For three months I trained hard," Ndombele tells Levy in French. "Everybody says I trained really well, but if I don't play it means there must be something else
Levy advises Ndombele, through player liaison Roberto Balbontin, that it is normal for players to struggle in their first season but warns him: "Only you can turn this around."
Balbontin translates: "Like he [Levy] said, Tanguy, it's for you to overcome this thing. The first year is very complicated my friend. Put a line under it. This is the future, that is the past and look ahead."
As much as I can't stand Levy for his transfer activity...I've got some new found respect for him in the way he stands up for the club over the players. Saw it with how he dealt with Eriksen too.
Why do these players keep going to Levy?
Something else I noticed, maybe it was staged not sure, but he hangs about in and around the players alot more than I thought he would have done. All the important chats take place in the canteen it seems lol
Because he’s the Spurs equivalent to Vince McMahon in WWE. Way too involved with every aspect of the club
