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All or Nothing: The Spoiler Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by The Huddlefro, Aug 31, 2020.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

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    He's made it look like you love a completely different kind of grass! <laugh>
     
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  2. The RDBD

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    Poor old Spurlock.
    The only gambling his religion decrees is not a sin, and he is utter sh*te at it. :)
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

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    He's basically trying to avoid using the words, "See the **** I have to put up with?", isn't he?
     
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    Weirdly, I think Levy should have stepped in about our academy recruitment at some point

    Long story short, there was a period where we seemed to stop signing players to our academy, which is plain weird. To illustrate this, here's a list of players signed to our academy since the totally arbitrary year of 2011
    2011: Milos Veljkovic, Souleymane Coulibaly, Ruben Lameiras, Cristian Ceballos
    2012: Nabil Bentaleb
    2013: Anthony Georgiou
    2014: Ismael Azzaoui
    2016: Jonathan De Bie, Shilow Tracey
    2017: Troy Parrott
    2019: Yago Santiago, Isak Solberg, Kion Etete

    I can't help but wonder if this coincides with Alex Inglethorpe leaving a few months into AVB's tenure
     
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  5. PleaseNotPoll

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54116459

    Last season the club featured in the documentary 'All or Nothing', with cameras following Mourinho throughout the campaign.
    "Tottenham did it for the right reasons," he said when asked about the experience.
    "At that level would I do it again? Yes I would. Did I love it? No! I hated it. Did I watch it? No, and I'm not going to. I believe it is very interesting for people."

    Are we not doing it again this season, then? Quite surprised at that, given the reception it's got.
     
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    Yeah, you ****ing tell him, Hugo! 100% right.
    Looks like it was handled well by everyone though, including Son, who could've let it fester and get in his head.
     
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  7. Spurlock

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    Jose takes positive energy out of every situation...smart man
     
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  8. Tilly'sowner

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    Looking forward to watching this. I've been holding off waiting until all episodes are available because I wouldn't be able to wait until the following week for the next episode!
     
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    Until the rot sets in and then the atmosphere and Jose become toxic very very quickly
     
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    please log in to view this image
     
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    <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    Like anyone

    did you see what the rot did to Poch?
     
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    Look how Jose leaves clubs, the whole atmosphere on/off the pitch becomes poisonous every single time.
     
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  14. The Huddlefro

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    So I’ve finished the last 3 episodes. A few specific points.

    Jose seems to be a Winks fan, he talks about how he’s become more direct rather than just passing laterally. I’m not sure when he’s seeing this change, tbh, but he thinks it’s there. He also praises his work rate.

    It looks like GLC is Jose’s man, he commits on camera to play through injury for the team and we know Jose loves that. I think we need him back ASAP.

    As we saw from previews, Jose was a fan of the various in-squad arguments like Lloris/Son. I think he’s right in a way because it shows the team taking ownership for their actions and responsibility for fixing them. The manager needs to make sure it doesn’t descend into a poisonous atmosphere though.

    Overall I think it’s a really good insight into how a new manager tries to deal with things going wrong on the pitch, while everything goes to hell off it. It’s a far more interesting watch than the City one. The major, major theme is the mental side of the game and it’s clear from the footage we see at any rate that the issues we face on the pitch are as much about mentality as they are physical (squad balance, injuries etc).

    I also think in some ways it’s a damning verdict on the latter end of the Poch era at Spurs. The body language in the dressing room at half time at the start of the year is abject, and it’s clear how far the team have fallen since finishing 3rd then 2nd in the league. This group didn’t reach the CL final because of mentality or because they’re winners who eventually get unlucky, it wasn’t the sign of progress many of us thought it was. It was a knockout competition fluke from a team of talented players who were riding a wave but couldn’t sustain that over the course of a league season. Speculating, I think what we didn’t see in the doc was Jose and team behind the scenes probably commenting about how the task they are facing is much bigger than they thought.

    I think the doc makes me vaguely optimistic about the coming season IF Jose can keep developing the mentality of the team without it becoming toxic, as well as obviously fill in the remaining holes in the squad. It’s clear that when he came into the club there was a mountain to climb. Hopefully he can keep pushing this group to the summit.
     
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    Alfie Whiteman has two small parts in the doc and he’s immediately become the MVP of the whole show.

    Speaking at the time, he says the season should be restarted so that we can go back into the Champions League.

    Then says how he’s happy/ lucky he just bought a PS4 right before lockdown.

    <laugh>
     
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    Did anyone see the interview on MOTD , Jose was asked about the doc series and he said he was glad its over now he can manage the team without the intrusion of cameras. Classy
     
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    Currently watching episode 7/8

    I’m glad I had a giant bar of Galaxy to get through it

    ffs painful period of the season
     
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  19. Alfie Conn

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    I've just finished the series,overall I thought it was a Good insight to our club and not the car crash that I expected, highlights were the "we're ****ed"when Jose found out about Harry's injury and the realisation of what a player we had in GLC and the low was the run of 4 losses on the bounce and the injury list Pilling up , goes to show I had washed the pain away with lockdown Merlot and cheddar ,interesting to see Jose's approach to management and he liked to see players speaking out in the dressing room , so sad to see Super Jan go and hopefully we will get a chance to thank him in the stadium one day
     
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    Does it explain Vertonghen's release? Did he want to go or did we bin him? I heard that he wanted a longer contract than we would offer.
     
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