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Staines R's said:
But surely whether the a parent agrees or disagrees (which from my experience at least one parent with disagree with ANY decision made by the school), the ultimate decision lies with the headmaster, like it or lump it. If the said parent then decides to take matters further and take their child out of school then so be it....they should be prepared to face the consequences of their actions. It’s really not that hard in my opinion.
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I agree with you...and know you have kids...but it don't always work that way in my experience....

What with people like the ButtHuber family..."masks cause viral activation, my kid/ family aren't wearing it."

"My kids aren't wearing a mask, because other kids aren't"

My kids aren't going to school, because too many others aren't and we have a vunerable adult at home"

Why is my school making me where a mask when my friend in the school down the road doesn't have to

All these reasons and excuses will be used. As said...we need very firm instructions from above...and we are not getting them...the government is passing responsibility downwards.

And basically not taking responsibility
 
qprbeth said:
I agree with you...and know you have kids...but it don't always work that way in my experience....

What with people like the ButtHuber family..."masks cause viral activation, my kid/ family aren't wearing it."

"My kids aren't wearing a mask, because other kids aren't"

My kids aren't going to school, because too many others aren't and we have a vunerable adult at home"

Why is my school making me where a mask when my friend in the school down the road doesn't have to

All these reasons and excuses will be used. As said...we need very firm instructions from above...and we are not getting them...the government is passing responsibility downwards.

And basically not taking responsibility
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Yeah but that’s not the point though Beth. Personally I think it’s a good thing for heads to have the responsibility....Let’s be honest, if they adopted a more draconian approach then there would be many who would be against that, JUST ‘cos it’s the government.
I’m finding that being apolitical is great as it gets me to see the good and bad in all the sides, and not agree or disagree with any one side just ‘cos they are on ‘my side’
 
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Interesting figures from Germany regarding the origin of infections. These figures are not foolproof but from 50,000 cases which have been traced the place where infections most often occured was:
30,905 At home
6,393 In hospitals or other medical facilities
5,824 At the workplace
2,280 In care homes
1,953 Freetime activities (this is not specified)
662 In hotels and cruise ships

371 In educational establishments and kindergartens
293 In restaurants
90 When using public transport
6,379 cases could not be identified.

Not much you can do about the first case - if someone who lives with you gets it than you probably will, although there are cases where only one in a household got ill. Nonetheless the majority of cases picked it up from a close relation - to be expected I guess. Rather surprising is the low figure for public transport - though tracing in this case would be very difficult. The figures for 'Freetime activities' could cover a multitude of things - some indoors, some outside. But generally the numbers who contracted the disease outside must be very low - so the key appears to be spend as much time outside as possible (this could also apply to schools if the weather is good).
 
qprbeth said:
In fact I don't disagree with it..I think youngsters are fully capable of transmitting the virus, and most will be nearly assymptomatic. The " current folklaw" is that much transmission is through the young...and we only see the effects when an older/ vunerable person gets it.

I would have it fully in place in all areas of social gathering...in playgrounds, corridors halls etc in secondary schools.

It is the lack of solid decisions , confused thinking and constant uturns that gets my goat.
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So they made the right decision then.
 
qprbeth said:
Will do, when I can find it too...it came as newsflash on my phone about 10.30 last night.

It was a small paragraph with no provision for choice.

Yes it is good that individual headmasters have the choice...BUT ( in reality) will that not cause chaos if the parent disagrees with whatever the decision is made.

It is why total lockdown worked...and why it didn't work when the edges got fluffy
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With respect Beth, I'm not convinced you'd ever be happy with anything a Boris Johnson government did.
 
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colognehornet said:
Interesting figures from Germany regarding the origin of infections. These figures are not foolproof but from 50,000 cases which have been traced the place where infections most often occured was:
30,905 At home
6,393 In hospitals or other medical facilities
5,824 At the workplace
2,280 In care homes
1,953 Freetime activities (this is not specified)
662 In hotels and cruise ships

371 In educational establishments and kindergartens
293 In restaurants
90 When using public transport
6,379 cases could not be identified.

Not much you can do about the first case - if someone who lives with you gets it than you probably will, although there are cases where only one in a household got ill. Nonetheless the majority of cases picked it up from a close relation - to be expected I guess. Rather surprising is the low figure for public transport - though tracing in this case would be very difficult. The figures for 'Freetime activities' could cover a multitude of things - some indoors, some outside. But generally the numbers who contracted the disease outside must be very low - so the key appears to be spend as much time outside as possible (this could also apply to schools if the weather is good).
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How can they possibly be confident where and when someone contracted the virus?
 
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