Transfer Rumours Summer transfer window

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bobmid said:
How do you work that out? Bowen had 3 seasons with hull city, before that with Hereford. Not too dissimilar to BOS at all.
Granted goals per game ratio is better but not much between these players in my opinion
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52 goals in 124 games for Hull. 22 goals in his last full season for them, and 16 in the half season before he moved in January.

BOS has scored 8 in 74 for us. His most in a full season for us so far is five.

Anyone who thinks BOS should go for a similar amount to Bowen is wearing some very thick blue and white glasses.
 
Quite Possibly Raving said:
52 goals in 124 games for Hull. 22 goals in his last full season for them, and 16 in the half season before he moved in January.

BOS has scored 8 in 74 for us. His most in a full season for us so far is five.

Anyone who thinks BOS should go for a similar amount to Bowen is wearing some very thick blue and white glasses.
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Not similar but also not a quarter of the amount. Who knows what situation we’re in financially but he’s an £8m-£10m player all day long.
 
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West WindsR said:
Not similar but also not a quarter of the amount. Who knows what situation we’re in financially but he’s an £8m-£10m player all day long.
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I guess that's ultimately for the buying club to decide, and I'll be delighted if he goes for a little more if another club swoops in. He'd be an £8m player all day long with three years on his contract. The club have clearly made the fee public intentionally to try and drum up some competition.
 
Quite Possibly Raving said:
I guess that's ultimately for the buying club to decide, and I'll be delighted if he goes for a little more if another club swoops in. He'd be an £8m player all day long with three years on his contract. The club have clearly made the fee public intentionally to try and drum up some competition.
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Let's keep our fingers crossed....if only he'd played today and scored a couple....
 
Quite Possibly Raving said:
52 goals in 124 games for Hull. 22 goals in his last full season for them, and 16 in the half season before he moved in January.

BOS has scored 8 in 74 for us. His most in a full season for us so far is five.

Anyone who thinks BOS should go for a similar amount to Bowen is wearing some very thick blue and white glasses.
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Hasn't Bowen played striker a lot? BOS is not a striker. Compare BOS to another of our wide men Clarke who was sold for £10 million but who I don't think Warburton has ever selected before BOS, and didn't get on the park today.
 
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QPR Oslo said:
Hasn't Bowen played striker a lot? BOS is not a striker. Compare BOS to another of our wide men Clarke who was sold for £10 million but who I don't think Warburton has ever selected before BOS, and didn't get on the park today.
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My understanding is that he has mostly played as a forward wide player, so the comparison seemed fair. Happy to stand corrected if he's mostly played up top? I've certainly seen him play numerous times out wide but not up top.

Clarke is four years younger than BOS which I think is significant.

A few other comparisons:
- Demarai Gray from Birmingham to Leicester for £3.7m
- Antonio from Forest to West Ham for £7m
- Redmond from Norwich to Southampton for £10m

Don't get me wrong, I think with a year longer on his contract £7-8m might be a realistic expectation, but with a year left, what we're getting isn't out of kilter with other transfers.
 
StortfordQPR said:
I fear that you're right

I think a lot of people (and I'm thinking more generally here - not specifically us as a QPR community) just don't appreciate the massive impact of such a long period of relative economic inactivity. So many businesses have seen their income dry up completely or substantially and this has been the catalyst for change, frequently resulting in a significant contraction of the business going forwards. Not all businesses have assets to sell and those - like football clubs - with high and largely fixed (at least in the short term) running costs are most impacted. Many business owners simply can't pump money into a failing business because they haven't got the cash to do so. How many of us have thousands of pounds on deposit just for a rainy day? For most people their biggest asset is their house or their pension fund - both assets of last resort in a crisis

As several posters have noted there is an illusion of the wealth that our majority owners have, and virtually all that wealth is tied up in their other businesses and isn't represented by ready cash. Our club does have some assets - players - which sadly tend to be the first port of call for cash

The majority of football clubs live a hand to mouth existence - the wealth of the Premier League is highly concentrated and the gap to the Championship and beyond (and indeed within the Championship) grows ever wider. Our fan base is relatively small and our commercial income opportunities the same; the club simply isn't sustainable in the short or medium term without the owners constantly having to pump in cash to fund it. A loss of £1m a month might not sound a lot compared to even the reduced wealth of our majority owners (I'm excluding the Mittals given their small stake) but when an owner is faced with stumping up £1m a month every month for their entire period of ownership many will question their commitment and willingness to continue doing so

The harsh reality is that with limited income potential, the need to stay clear of FFP danger, and the on going cash requirement, like many other businesses assets need to be sold to keep the business afloat

We should count ourselves lucky that the club does have some assets to sell or we'd be back to rattling buckets to collect loose change outside LR

I've supported the club for some 45 years now and the business of football has been utterly transformed over that time. The overall product is so much better, but there has been a price to pay - partly by us as fans through significantly higher ticket prices - but also through the financial support that many owners have to provide

I'm not an apologist for our owners - they've made plenty of mistakes - but our club is still here and still in the Championship so let's be grateful for that. If we wanted to support a club that expected to win week in week out we wouldn't support QPR would we?

The summer transfer window may not bring us what we want, but let's pause for thought - without owners willing to keep the club afloat we might not have a club at all and who would prefer to spend their Saturdays washing the car or trekking round Westfield with the other half?
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depends what your other half is like. Are you happy to share?
 
QPR Oslo said:
Yes. The guy has electric pace, good holding ability, and strength. He would be an excellent addition for a PL Club, and a snip at £10 million. Would you prefer BOS or £10 million Clarke. Certainly Warburton has shown he prefers BOS by starting him regularly.
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All valid. However we can't just hold out for our valuation. Perhaps we should have waited a bit for the Prem season to finish but what is for sure is we would not have got our valuation. Remember the lesson of Charlie Austin. We turned down £12 million because he was worth more . We were however forced to sell him a few months later for £4 million. A player is only worth what someone will pay and to get a good price preferably we need a bidding war between 2 or more clubs and a player willing to go to anywhere. That and the extent of the Board's need to get some money in are factors we can only guess at.
 
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QPR Oslo said:
Yes. The guy has electric pace, good holding ability, and strength. He would be an excellent addition for a PL Club, and a snip at £10 million. Would you prefer BOS or £10 million Clarke. Certainly Warburton has shown he prefers BOS by starting him regularly.
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You've just listed his attributes, which I agree with. My point its only really this season he's been pulling up any trees in terms of performances.
 
YorkshireHoopster said:
All valid. However we can't just hold out for our valuation. Perhaps we should have waited a bit for the Prem season to finish but what is for sure is we would not have got our valuation. Remember the lesson of Charlie Austin. We turned down £12 million because he was worth more . We were however forced to sell him a few months later for £4 million. A player is only worth what someone will pay and to get a good price preferably we need a bidding war between 2 or more clubs and a player willing to go to anywhere. That and the extent of the Board's need to get some money in are factors we can only guess at.
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Now we're in agreement. We really need to hope for a bidding war, because competition really drives the value of a player up and can make the time left on his contract redundant. I could see him fitting in well at Palace. Let's hope they think £4.5m is a bargain and up the ante...
 
YorkshireHoopster said:
All valid. However we can't just hold out for our valuation. Perhaps we should have waited a bit for the Prem season to finish but what is for sure is we would not have got our valuation. Remember the lesson of Charlie Austin. We turned down £12 million because he was worth more . We were however forced to sell him a few months later for £4 million. A player is only worth what someone will pay and to get a good price preferably we need a bidding war between 2 or more clubs and a player willing to go to anywhere. That and the extent of the Board's need to get some money in are factors we can only guess at.
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Yes, well if we had waited a week or two, perhaps we still can, we could have got a bidding war going if any of the rumoured interest from Leicester, Brighton, Leeds, Fulham, Everton and Palace was/ is real.
 
Frome-Ranger said:
You've just listed his attributes, which I agree with. My point its only really this season he's been pulling up any trees in terms of performances.
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Yes he's young, improved on flashes of brilliance before, and this season he has been excellent, far more consistent, and been a regular starter. Surely it is his performance level now that is what potential buyers are interested in.
 
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QPR Oslo said:
Yes, well if we had waited a week or two, perhaps we still can, we could have got a bidding war going if any of the rumoured interest from Leicester, Brighton, Leeds, Fulham, Everton and Palace was/ is real.
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Those clubs are still allowed to bid for him now and agree a deal. Maybe the club decided the best way to get them to the table is to publicly accept another deal. Who knows.
 
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Maybe I'm old fashioned but a deal is a deal, including shaking hands on it, though now I guess that's the Buddhust greeting or touching elbows. How many deals can Football Clubs make before it's a done deal. Perhaps it's not done until a contract is signed and its registered with the Football leagues, in Belgium too if it is Brugge. Perhaps if we can drag it out a few months Brexit wont allow it.
 
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