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They gave plenty away to bail out the banks in 2008, so why not?


Because for every business that takes the money it is given and carries on through this, there will be another that takes the money it is given and lays everyone off and closes down anyway.
 
Hopefully they'll come up with a system whereby rent payers are also protected but if you're ok for a few months you should be fine?

How long we expecting this to go on for if it's more than a few months? Ignore the politicians for a minute and focus on the science, the forecast isn't that we'll all be indoors for months on end. The world at large and the economy has to keep moving when it can.

Yeah true.

I'm trying to stay positive.

I have over a lump of money which could get me a deposit on a house (it is my deposit) which I've had for a few years but been reluctant to spend as looking at moving career and might need the money to retrain.

So looking at it that way it won't sink me but it will drain me and looking for work if I do get released from my role could be the difficult bit.

Any lock down is going to hit us bad as naturally we're building - limited what we can do at home even when quoting works and invoices and payment applications (what I do a lot of) - from memory you're a QS or PM aren't you?

I left proper quantity surveying for main contractors a few years ago.

Might have to knock on a few old doors!
 
Because for every business that takes the money it is given and carries on through this, there will be another that takes the money it is given and lays everyone off and closes down anyway.
Then they’ll have to come up with something that’s solely to support payroll payments for businesses facing laying workers off. The loans to be left for helping pay for the other fixed costs.

Expecting business to essentially keep the populous afloat whilst accruing debt in order to do, isn’t how this needs to work.
 
They’re going to have to do something to support renters, and I’d expect that to come today / tomorrow, as the omission has been highlighted everywhere.

Unfortunately, the reality of offering loans to business that would mainly be going to support an inactive workforce, is there in your comment. Expecting business to rack up massive debt in order to keep inactive staff in wages isn’t going to happen. Companies will be forced to lay staff off, which will cause massive hardship as the UC system is dogshit. They’re going to have to do more to help ensure people aren’t laid off.

Yup.

Who want to accrue debt with no turnover or cash flow?

I'm hoping things become more clear in the next few days.

Just trying to get my head down and win some work!

Plus look after my Nan from a distance.
 
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Then they’ll have to come up with something that’s solely to support payroll payments for businesses facing laying workers off. The loans to be left for helping pay for the other fixed costs.

Expecting business to essentially keep the populous afloat whilst accruing debt in order to do, isn’t how this needs to work.

I don't think they are, the majority of business will carry on as normal as possible. This is aimed at small business who rely on foot fall trade, like pubs, restaurants and those affected by a slow down to it. Not only those, but those are the business to be hit short term by this and will need time to recover.

Unless I missed something, the rest of us carry on working.
 
Yup.

Who want to accrue debt with no turnover or cash flow?

I'm hoping things become more clear in the next few days.

Just trying to get my head down and win some work!

Plus look after my Nan from a distance.
Tough times mate, but it’ll eventually pass and your health and that of your loved ones is the most important thing.
 
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Yup.

Who want to accrue debt with no turnover or cash flow?

I'm hoping things become more clear in the next few days.

Just trying to get my head down and win some work!

Plus look after my Nan from a distance.

I'm in a similar situation at the mo, between jobs and renting, waiting to hear back about the job I was meant to start 2 weeks ago but it's probably going to get postponed (they will most definitely go bust if this drags on for a few months).

So I'm a bit ****ed, doubt applying for UC will help in the short term and seriously doubt this government will put anything in place to help.
 
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I don't think they are, the majority of business will carry on as normal as possible. This is aimed at small business who rely on foot fall trade, like pubs, restaurants and those affected by a slow down to it. Not only those, but those are the business to be hit short term by this and will need time to recover.

Unless I missed something, the rest of us carry on working.

We’re a consumer lead economy, as hardship increases spending will fall off a cliff and this’ll affect virtually every sector. Social distancing measures are also likely to be increased, and more and more offices and plants will shut down, either by choice or through instruction.
 
We’re a consumer lead economy, as hardship increases spending will fall off a cliff and this’ll affect virtually every sector. Social distancing measures are also likely to be increased, and more and more offices and plants will shut down, either by choice or through instruction.


Indeed. Those timescales and measures are unknowns at the minute and the whole situation will evolve.

Personally, I've been more listening to the science side and them attempting to manage when it peaks, and I don't think it will be anywhere near as bad as originally forecast.

I could be completely wrong though of course.
 
Indeed. Those timescales and measures are unknowns at the minute and the whole situation will evolve.

Personally, I've been more listening to the science side and them attempting to manage when it peaks, and I don't think it will be anywhere near as bad as originally forecast.

I could be completely wrong though of course.

We’ve never seen anything like this, it’s a truly bizarre situation. It’s a day to day job in terms of trying to manage it.
 
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Tough times mate, but it’ll eventually pass and your health and that of your loved ones is the most important thing.

True.

It is unprecedented and I'm hoping the government catch up fast.

There stuff he said about mortgages and small businesses is at least vaguely positive.

I'm guessing Brexit will be postponed!
 
I'm in a similar situation at the mo, between jobs and renting, waiting to hear back about the job I was meant to start 2 weeks ago but it's probably going to get postponed (they will most definitely go bust if this drags on for a few months).

So I'm a bit ****ed, doubt applying for UC will help in the short term and seriously doubt this government will put anything in place to help.

Sounds very tricky mate.

The company I work for has 2 jobs starting beginning of next month (we are actually quite busy).

But if we're locked down totally then its going to be very difficult.

I've told my boss that I'm happy being out on site doing site work if it helps (I'm primarily office based skilled) but I do have some experience on site and can add value and have tools.

Fingers crossed mate.
 
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Sounds very tricky mate.

The company I work for has 2 jobs starting beginning of next month (we are actually quite busy).

But if we're locked down totally then its going to be very difficult.

I've told my boss that I'm happy being out on site doing site work if it helps (I'm primarily office based skilled) but I do have some experience on site and can add value and have tools.

Fingers crossed mate.

Yea, 2 months of lockdown followed by interviews and another month before payday? Sounds like a right laugh...

Might have to get Euromillions tickets for Friday, I'd be more likely to see some cash than from BoJo and co <laugh>
 
Yea, 2 months of lockdown followed by interviews and another month before payday? Sounds like a right laugh...

Might have to get Euromillions tickets for Friday, I'd be more likely to see some cash than from BoJo and co <laugh>

Hahaha yes Euromillions would be nice.

When I and the other self employed guys started working for this one company we work for now we had to do 2 months work before getting paid for the 1st so we're always a month behind.

If we go bust then we risk losing that month!

Made me laugh when we had a nipper who used would wine despite being paid weekly.
 
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