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Scotland is becoming more and more appealing by the day. I quite like the look of Shetland, and a few of the other islands.

I wonder if they accept disillusioned southerners who talk funny?

They have welcomed Fraser Forster with open arms so maybe there is hope.
 
Trimming would be the pragmatic thing to do. I think this administration might well follow the course of the Macron one across the channel, massive enthusiasm followed by massive disillusion as his support realises that he just isn't capable of delivering on things like a "good" Brexit and uniting the country.
 
StJabbo1 said:
Chin up chap I think if you can invest in property and have sufficient funds to support yourself and family I.E. not become a burden on the state then you should be OK. Check out Portugal which I understand has the best tax regime for immigrants/expats.
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Thanks, Jabs. Will have a look. It’s only me, so it may be feasible ......
 
The Ides of March said:
The Scots think positively. The North of England, perhaps not!! How the fathers and grandfathers of previous generations across the North must be howling in their graves knowing that their offspring voted for the policies of a party of the hard right. It is a complete betrayal.
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There is a case for saying , despite being Labour supporters due mostly to the influence of Trade Unions, many of those Northern English communities have always been socially conservative
St Godders said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see Johnson dump one or two at least of the ERG now he does not need them anymore.

He will jump just as quickly of the ERG/UKIP bandwagon as he jumped on it now that he has a large majority.
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Let’s hope so.

Boris was a complete waste of time as London Mayor, his only legacy being a bridge nowhere that no one wanted; but at least he didn’t pander to the far right, preferring to act the part of the “one nation” Tory. If there is such a thing, which I doubt. Maybe he’ll now go back to that.
 
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Archers Road said:
There is a case for saying , despite being Labour supporters due mostly to the influence of Trade Unions, many of those Northern English communities have always been socially conservative



Let’s hope so.

Boris was a complete waste of time as London Mayor, his only legacy being a bridge nowhere that no one wanted; but at least he didn’t pander to the far right, preferring to act the part of the “one nation” Tory. If there is such a thing, which I doubt. Maybe he’ll now go back to that.
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I was in St Helens last week and much of the industry has all but gone. The partner of my friend attributed oñe of the reasons being due to the policies of the local Labour council. He cited that the Council decided not to pursue redevelopment of land for industrial purposes around Haydock due to opposition of local residents. Of course I need to bear in mind his bias. So given his attitude and that of countless millions in the North of England with similar, it is perhaps, no surprise that last night' AfUK won in many former Labour constituencies.
 
Kaito said:
Scotland is becoming more and more appealing by the day. I quite like the look of Shetland, and a few of the other islands.

I wonder if they accept disillusioned southerners who talk funny?

They have welcomed Fraser Forster with open arms so maybe there is hope.
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You will be made very welcome any time, Kaito ! - Scotland id generally a very welcoming and cosmopolitan place.
 
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Just listened to Jack Straw saying that the blame for Labour’s woes is not just Corbyn’s , but it also should be shared by Len McCluskie and Milliband. They introduced the new membership rules which led to Corbyn and Momentum. If you let teenagers vote for the party leader, you get a cult. Only people who haven’t experienced socialism are in favour of it. If there is a socialist society that has made people happier or richer, then I haven’t heard of it. The theory is very laudible and I would support one, but it doesn’t work in practise. Labour voters have decided that voting Labour hasn’t improved their lives, so they are voting for a change. As someone who has voted a mixture of all 3 main parties over 50 years, I realise that it all goes wrong in the end.
 
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Farked19 said:
Corbyn and Momentum own this result make no mistake. Labour had four years to prepare and put forward a left wing agenda and the electorate didn't go for it. The sensible thing to do now would be to choose a soft left leader and put forward policies that will attract mass support. The problem with going for hard left policies is that only 25% of the electorate support them. You can get a few more percent from people like me who reluctantly agree to go along with it but know in their hearts that it won't work.
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and that in a nutshell is exactly the case. Nuff said.
 
oldstocktonsaint said:
Just listened to Jack Straw saying that the blame for Labour’s woes is not just Corbyn’s , but it also should be shared by Len McCluskie and Milliband. They introduced the new membership rules which led to Corbyn and Momentum. If you let teenagers vote for the party leader, you get a cult. Only people who haven’t experienced socialism are in favour of it. If there is a socialist society that has made people happier or richer, then I haven’t heard of it. The theory is very laudible and I would support one, but it doesn’t work in practise. Labour voters have decided that voting Labour hasn’t improved their lives, so they are voting for a change. As someone who has voted a mixture of all 3 main parties over 50 years, I realise that it all goes wrong in the end.
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People have voted for a change by voting more of the same? This world has gone nuts...
 
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