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Asterix said:
I do. This is the land of all free. A lorry load of frozen bodies, bought the ticket to the land of plenty.
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Makes you wonder why they were so desperate to escape the wonders and equality of a communist country. Surel everyone is happy and wants for nothing. Why would they want leave such a wonderful system to come to the austerity hit, poverty stricken racist UK?
 
DMD said:
I don't know that, and it's certainly not true in my case. Most seems to b based on her competence.
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I don't know that, and it's certainly not true in my case. Most seems to b based on her incompetence.

Corrected for you.
 
I despair that people have been lead by the MSM into the trap of blaming each other for the perceived ills of the country, rather than holding the government to account. Like:

  • poor people are poor because they don’t work hard enough - and they can’t really be poor anyway because they’re fat and own a telly.
  • I can’t get to see my doctor because of all those immigrants
  • All politicians are the same, can’t be bothered with it all now.

In an age where we have more information than ever about what our politicians are up to, and ways of contacting them, people are less informed and use the channels for abuse rather than discussion.

I’m somewhat to the left of Corbyn in my politics - I pay my taxes and view it as a privilege to repay the investment the country made in me when I was young, and I will vote to ensure that they go towards investing in the youngsters of today and tomorrow.

I sincerely hope that those who vote Tory solely because they’ll “get Brexit done” (they won’t, it will drag on for years because there are many many laws, regulations and deals to do after Brexit day, whenever that may be) are fully aware of what will come with another five years of this lot in charge.
 
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DMD said:
Which bit?

 We will get rid of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act – it has led to paralysis at a time the country needed decisive action.  We will ensure we have updated and equal Parliamentary boundaries, making sure that every vote counts the same – a cornerstone of democracy.  We will continue to support the First Past the Post system of voting, as it allows voters to kick out politicians who don’t deliver, both locally and nationally.  We will protect the integrity of our democracy, by introducing identification to vote at polling stations, stopping postal vote harvesting and measures to prevent any foreign interference in elections.

 We will make it easier for British expats to vote in Parliamentary elections, and get rid of the arbitrary 15-year limit on their voting rights.  We will maintain the voting age at 18 – the age at which one gains full citizenship rights.  We will ensure that no one is put off from engaging in politics or standing in an election by threats, harassment or abuse, whether in person or online.  We will champion freedom of expression and tolerance, both in the UK and overseas.  To support free speech, we will repeal section 40 of the Crime and Courts Act 2014, which seeks to coerce the press. We will not proceed with the second stage of the Leveson Inquiry.  We will ensure redundancy payments can be clawed back when high-paid public servants move between jobs.  We will improve the use of data, data science and evidence in the process of government

Once we get Brexit done, Britain will take back control of its laws. As we end the supremacy of European law, we will be free to craft legislation and regulations that maintain high standards but which work best for the UK. We want a balance of rights, rules and entitlements that benefits all the people and all the parts of our United Kingdom. After Brexit we also need to look at the broader aspects of our constitution: the relationship between the Government, Parliament and the courts; the functioning of the Royal Prerogative; the role of the House of Lords; and access to justice for ordinary people. The ability of our security services to defend us against terrorism and organised crime is critical. We will update the Human Rights Act and administrative law to ensure that there is a proper balance between the rights of individuals, our vital national security and effective government. We will ensure that judicial review is available to protect the rights of the individuals against an overbearing state, while ensuring that it is not abused to conduct politics by another means or to create needless delays. In our first year we will set up a Constitution, Democracy & Rights Commission that will examine these issues in depth, and come up with proposals to restore trust in our institutions and in how our democracy operates.
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Boundaries

Voter ID

Judicial Involvement

Human Rights Act

Ex-Pat Voting

Leveson

Role of House of Lords

Functioning of the Royal Prerogative

They are setting the wheels in motion to limit the boundaries of the Supreme Courts. The foundations of a Dictatorship, making it possible for them to take full control of Parliament similar to that of Germany in the 1920s/30s which led to the rise of Hitler.

It should scare you all.
 
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City Man said:
Seems unlikely .

There's a rash of Extinction Rebellion scribble on there (not sure if done with ethical aerosols)

If god (sic) is dead, this presupposes his existence in the first place.

BOMBSHELL FACT
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Still alive & strumming as far as I can tell.

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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
So you do know it’s not just DA.
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No one said it was. Though it was obviously racist and misogynistic to point out a Dawn Butler’s faux pas.

Younseem to have as big a crush on Abbott as I had on Julie Christie, who is a bit of a leftie BTW, in the 1960s.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
Boundaries

Voter ID

Judicial Involvement

Human Rights Act

Ex-Pat Voting

Leveson

Role of House of Lords

Functioning of the Royal Prerogative

They are setting the wheels in motion to limit the boundaries of the Supreme Courts. The foundations of a Dictatorship, making it possible for them to take full control of Parliament similar to that of Germany in the 1920s/30s which led to the rise of Hitler.

It should scare you all.
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funny you should draw that comparison, isn’t this election campaign of media smearing, propaganda and description frighteningly similar to the way Hitler rose in popularity?

In fact, it’s exactly the same.
 
Barchullona said:
No one said it was. Though it was obviously racist and misogynistic to point out a Dawn Butler’s faux pas.

Younseem to have as big a crush on Abbott as I had on Julie Christie, who is a bit of a leftie BTW, in the 1960s.
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You’re deliberately missing the point. There’s a marked difference between pointing out a mistake & threatening to kill & rape somebody because they’re of colour & made a mistake.

You need to stop the justification, you appear to be condoning it.
 
Mr Hacker said:
funny you should draw that comparison, isn’t this election campaign of media smearing, propaganda and description frighteningly similar to the way Hitler rose in popularity?

In fact, it’s exactly the same.
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You think so? Labour will be more like the USSR, useful idiots like Corbyn will be dispensed with if Labour win power and then McDonnell and the hatchet men of Momentum will take over. Of course the anti Semitism means Labour are closer to Hitler in some respects.
 
My viewpoint on where this election will finish is that there will be no Tory majority. They are the only major party to support Brexit.

I believe that the a larger share of the people who voted remain; some people who didn't vote as they never expected Brexit to win and the people who voted Brexit who subsequently learned they had been fed a pile of horseshit by the media will outnumber party political preference.

As Corbyn appears to be not liked, I expect large swings to the Liberals. Whether this is a good thing remains open to debate, but as long as the Conservatives don't hold a coalition majority, I care little.
 
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