General Election 2019

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General Election 2019

  • Labour

    Votes: 12 36.4%

  • Tory

    Votes: 9 27.3%

  • Lib. Dem

    Votes: 6 18.2%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 1 3.0%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • SNP

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 2 6.1%

  • My legs because they support me

    Votes: 1 3.0%
  • Total voters
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superhorns said:
I don't hate anybody, even misguided remainers and Luton supporters. :emoticon-0105-wink:

I repeat it was made clear to all before the referendum that leaving the EU meant leaving the customs union and the single market.
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superhorns said:
I don't hate anybody, even misguided remainers and Luton supporters. :emoticon-0105-wink:

I repeat it was made clear to all before the referendum that leaving the EU meant leaving the customs union and the single market.
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Blödsinn ! The leave campaigners before the referendum weren't consistent on whether Brexit meant leaving the customs union, the theme was rarely mentioned by them before the referendum. When it was mentioned the following comes up:

Michael Gove - ''There is a free trade zone stretching from Iceland to Turkey that all European nations have access to, regardless of whether they are in the euro or EU. After we vote to leave we will remain in this zone''

Arron Banks, a founder of the leave EU campaign tweeted - ''Increasingly the Norway option looks the best for the UK''.

Nigel Farage also quoted the Norway model as a possibility.
 
colognehornet said:
Blödsinn ! The leave campaigners before the referendum weren't consistent on whether Brexit meant leaving the customs union, the theme was rarely mentioned by them before the referendum. When it was mentioned the following comes up:

Michael Gove - ''There is a free trade zone stretching from Iceland to Turkey that all European nations have access to, regardless of whether they are in the euro or EU. After we vote to leave we will remain in this zone''

Arron Banks, a founder of the leave EU campaign tweeted - ''Increasingly the Norway option looks the best for the UK''.

Nigel Farage also quoted the Norway model as a possibility.
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The video I just posted shows them saying it...
 
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oldfrenchhorn said:
I gave you my source. Someone I have known for 68 years. He is not an oddbod by any stretch of the imagination. He is well known within the polo society, the Tory party that he supported until very recently, and the local branch of the Masonic lodge. A typical Tory in other words.

So I ask you again, what is your source that people like him are a tiny minority.
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There is no such thing as a typical Tory. Listening to one person and trying to extrapolate it nationally is foolish. Tory remainer leadership MP's had poor support and were voted out in the early rounds. Boris had the overwhelming support of Tory members in the final round. MPs that opposed Boris's new deal were shunned by the local party members and general Tory voters, which is why most have resigned. Your contact is in a tiny minority which will be firmly confirmed by the forthcoming success of Boris's new one nation government.
 
superhorns said:
There is no such thing as a typical Tory. Listening to one person and trying to extrapolate it nationally is foolish. Tory remainer leadership MP's had poor support and were voted out in the early rounds. Boris had the overwhelming support of Tory members in the final round. MPs that opposed Boris's new deal were shunned by the local party members and general Tory voters, which is why most have resigned. Your contact is in a tiny minority which will be firmly confirmed by the forthcoming success of Boris's new one nation government.
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Quote - ''There is no such thing as a typical Tory'' <laugh> How often have you told us about the traditional Labour voter ?
 
The public will be able to vote in the election knowing full well Boris's kind of deal to actually leave the EU. His version proved the most popular amongst those of us entrusted with choosing your Prime Minister. I'm sure he will end up with a mandate to enable us to finally legally leave the dreadful EU in January.
colognehornet said:
Quote - ''There is no such thing as a typical Tory'' <laugh> How often have you told us about the traditional Labour voter ?
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The typical Northern Labour voter is much easier to identify, cloth cap, whippet and a pint of stout down the working man's club. :emoticon-0136-giggl
 
Sterling today enjoyed a six months high on the news the Brexit Party will not contest seats in previously Tory held seats. As it reduced the likelihood of a hung parliament the market supported the increased possibility of a clear result.

The UK's annual gross domestic product growth in the third quarter was 1.0% compared to the almost identical eurozone's 1.1%. A Conservative majority would allow sterling to rise 3% and bookies now say a Tory majority is the odds-on favourite outcome of the election.
 
I am reminded of a story about a French peasant who had spent the past decade working the land with his elderly horse. The horse started to become slower and slower, and eventually the peasant decided he would have to get something different. He took his aged horse to market and accepted a price much lower than he hoped for, but could not see anything he wanted to buy that was going to be an improvement on what he just got rid of.
The following week he returned to the market and spotted this black horse, and the asking price was only 30% more than he had received for his old horse. He bought it and took it home and was quite surprised to find that it settled into the stable as if it had always been there. The next day he went to start work with his new horse, only to find that it was no longer a black horse, but a brown horse that had been coloured with boot polish. As soon as he started to work with the horse he realised it was his old horse that had been coloured, and his shame was such that he went and hung himself.

Transpose the aged horse with the government that has ground to a halt, and the peasant with a brexiter who has been taken in by those who wish to con him into paying for his folly.
 
oldfrenchhorn said:
I am reminded of a story about a French peasant who had spent the past decade working the land with his elderly horse. The horse started to become slower and slower, and eventually the peasant decided he would have to get something different. He took his aged horse to market and accepted a price much lower than he hoped for, but could not see anything he wanted to buy that was going to be an improvement on what he just got rid of.
The following week he returned to the market and spotted this black horse, and the asking price was only 30% more than he had received for his old horse. He bought it and took it home and was quite surprised to find that it settled into the stable as if it had always been there. The next day he went to start work with his new horse, only to find that it was no longer a black horse, but a brown horse that had been coloured with boot polish. As soon as he started to work with the horse he realised it was his old horse that had been coloured, and his shame was such that he went and hung himself.

Transpose the aged horse with the government that has ground to a halt, and the peasant with a brexiter who has been taken in by those who wish to con him into paying for his folly.
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Somebody's been at the cheap plonk.:emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
Great stuff. Just spent an hour chatting to my oldest friend from Dorset. Dyed in the wool Tory, Telegraph poked through the letterbox every morning and a member of the party who voted for Boris. Totally shafted by him, don't want to talk about him. He is a disgrace, lying bas**** , getting into bed with that tosspot. Tries to break the law by closing down parliament, now wants to be part of the extreme right wing self servers. After two years of unsuccessfully trying to get him to see the light, he has realised on his own just how he has been deceived. He has sent an e-mail to the party telling them to count him out. If you think that I have strong views that is nothing compared to what I heard tonight.
His attitude in the past has always been one of not having to think about politics, just turn up for the local man with a blue rosette. Today that has changed, and I wonder how many others local to him feel the same. I will get to see him next week and must play it with care. It is not nice to be told that you got it wrong.
 
Farage facing calls tonight from some of his supporters to stand down. They are not happy with his decision to only stand in half the seats he promised to.
 
So now we have the subject of Jammu and Kashmir raising it's ugly head. Sometimes I think that Labour should refrain from making any comments about foreign affairs for fear of offending someone. Apparently they are now anti India and anti Hindu because they expressed an opinion on the ending of special status for the region and the Indian governments decision to impose martial law and direct control there. Standing up against oppression can be like walking a tightrope - you stand up for the rights of Palestinians and you are anti Semitic, you stand up for the rights of the majority population in Kashmir and you are anti Hindu. Fortunately they have not expressed any opinion on Tibet, otherwise they would be anti Chinese. The same happened in Germany when the genocide commited against ethnic Armenians (80+ years ago) was classified as a case of ethnic cleansing - this was, apparently, anti Turkish and therefore racist.
 
So on top of the leaked Russian report, we now have the leaked HS2 report. Despite the costs spiralling out of control it is likely that the government needs it to go ahead with the existing network full to breaking point. This project has exercised the minds of many Tory MPs representing those from the leafy shires, my own one is not happy about the impact it will have, but being a minister always takes evasive action when questioned. I wonder if this will have any effect on the voters when it come to them expressing their views at the ballot box?
 
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