Good point 55.
We can't be sure if a goal is going to stand or not, but we won't be worrying about that in League One.
We can't be sure if a goal is going to stand or not, but we won't be worrying about that in League One.
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I’ve a feeling the Premier League will nail it though.
They’ve already been very clear about what will and will be referred, they’ve stayed the decision process will be shown in stadium on screen.
I think we might get a pleasant surprise at how efficient the PL version is. Let’s be honest, as a league, as a brand, as a product, they know what they are doing.
We might not like the money, the imbalance etc, but we cannot argue that the ****ers know how to run the show. They nail it.
They’ve already been very clear about what will and will be referred, they’ve stayed the decision process will be shown in stadium on screen.
I think we might get a pleasant surprise at how efficient the PL version is. Let’s be honest, as a league, as a brand, as a product, they know what they are doing.
We might not like the money, the imbalance etc, but we cannot argue that the ****ers know how to run the show. They nail it.
But fans wont be able to celebrate a goal with full satisfaction anymore until the game has restarted.
Yeah I’m sure they said goals will only be referred in certain situations, for example an offside. In a scenario whereby it was immediately ruled out then given.
In essence you’d be gaining a goal celebration, not losing the joy. The Copa America has been a shambles for it frankly. I might be clutching at straws but I can’t see us getting it wrong.
In Italy it’s still terrible and laboured, whereas in Germany, they’ve had it 2 years, first season was slow last season it was almost instantaneous.
I will say, as I always have, that controversial decisions have always been a part of the game, and a good part.
Arguing over them is a massive part of football that we may lose, which is a shame.
That said, teams being relegated on poor decisions etc isn’t all that. I’d rather we didn’t have it, but it’s here for keeps so we just gotta hope we get it right.
But it would be natural that the moment the linesman puts his flag up for offside a defender could relax, allowing an attacker to find it easier to put the ball in the net. If they then went to VAR and realised that it wasnt offside, then a goal be given, that would leave a nasty taste in the mouth for the defending team. I know that its drilled into players at an early age to play to the whistle but for a team to potentially benefit from a poor linesmans decision is a bit iffy.
I agree with that, but then maybe it makes defenders better, makes the game better in a way.
There’s a hell of a lot of wrong offsides which nobody really discusses as ball was out on wing etc, could and should see more chances and goals.
The concern is defenders playing really deep to negate it, but then that would open up the midfield and we’d maybe see more 30 yarders.
We gonna need to wait and see I guess, but it’s happening so it is what it is.
It didnt cross my mind that VAR's inclusion would effect how the game is actually played. There certainly will be alot of wrinkles to iron out before it will be anywhere near 100% effective. It will create fewer controversies, but bigger controversies as far as I'm concerned. I just think at some point it will cause a controversy that will go down in footballing history. I mean if a wrong decision is still made after numerous replays viewed, and its possible because football can be very grey and is not as black and white as say cricket, there will be hell on. If 9/10 people would have disallowed a goal, but that 1/10 is sitting behind the VAR screen......hell on!
... has replaced referees as a Monday morning talking point.
People used to discuss whether the referees had made the right decision, now they're asking the same questions about VAR.
In reality it's just another referee, under pressure, looking at an incident, and as we've seen, some incidents are less clear from multiple angles such as the Deli Ali handball.
In the studio the pundits are regularly disagreeing about the VAR decisions so what's the point of it all.
It just slows the game down and takes the fun out of goals ...
... a 3 minute delay to be able to celebrate a cup winning goal would kill the thrill for me tbh.
People used to discuss whether the referees had made the right decision, now they're asking the same questions about VAR.
In reality it's just another referee, under pressure, looking at an incident, and as we've seen, some incidents are less clear from multiple angles such as the Deli Ali handball.
In the studio the pundits are regularly disagreeing about the VAR decisions so what's the point of it all.
It just slows the game down and takes the fun out of goals ...
... a 3 minute delay to be able to celebrate a cup winning goal would kill the thrill for me tbh.
I knew it would happen. It just changes the excuse for bad decisions from human error to shear stupidity.
Its crap. I preferred football as it was, some decisions you win, some you lose, thats the way it goes.
Yeh and as said before
It should only be used for goal line technology
Leave the rest to the referee and his linemen
It should only be used for goal line technology
Leave the rest to the referee and his linemen
I would like to see something along the lines of cricket's "umpire's decision".
Having a goal disallowed because the striker's toenail is ahead of the last defender is barmy.
Give them twenty seconds. If it's not an obvious error go with the referee's decision.
It really is spoiling the game at the moment.
Having a goal disallowed because the striker's toenail is ahead of the last defender is barmy.
Give them twenty seconds. If it's not an obvious error go with the referee's decision.
It really is spoiling the game at the moment.
I was for it initially but now I've seen it in action I don't think it's been a success and it never will because just as it was with one ref it's still leaving things open to interpretation. If it's not getting it right 100% of the time then it's not worth it.
The worst thing about it is having to wait for goals to be verified, it's totally unnatural for the emotions of the players and the fans.
Just goal line decisions for me and the rest can bugger off. Failed experiment imo. I wonder if they would remove it or if they'd feel like now they've dived in they can't ever back out.
The worst thing about it is having to wait for goals to be verified, it's totally unnatural for the emotions of the players and the fans.
Just goal line decisions for me and the rest can bugger off. Failed experiment imo. I wonder if they would remove it or if they'd feel like now they've dived in they can't ever back out.
The footballing authorities have to change the wording of the rules to make it more palatable to the fans
It had been tested and tested until it was the 'bees knees' (I could, and probably should, have said the dog's bollocks), so they wouldn't cancel it now 'cos they'd look stupid !
They blinking well should, though
They blinking well should, though
Should only be used same as cricket, team gets 1 or 2 (I'm undecided) chances to appeal against a decision. If its a correct appeal, they keep their 'life', if not they lose it and can't appeal again. Only the manager or captain can put an official appeal in place to the ref. The captain or manager must state what their appeal is for. If they appeal for, lets say, offside, but replays show it was onside, but a foul is shown leading up to the goal, its tough **** cos thats not what they appealed for so the goal stands.
If they couldn’t see Deli Ali handball it needs binned.