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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
The Lisbon 2020 treaty finalises in , surprise surprise 2020 it was signed in 2008 by Labour under Gordon Brown, why do you think the Irish rejected it in their referendum on it and were forced to vote again, because the corrupt anti democratic EU weren’t happy with the vote, why were the French denied a referendum on it, It’s because it’s a treaty that removes sovereignty of nation states, it removes the nation states government from having any control over laws, finance, tax, rules regulations, it outlines the concept of a EU army, it removes our And Denmark’s veto on policy and brings in the majority rule, it ups our contributions massively, it stops us from trading with anybody else outside the EU without paying massive fines and tariffs, it removes our control over the movement of people from inside the EU and outside, it allows the new EU army to enter any nation state to put down insurrection against the EU without the nation in question having any say in it, it’s a surrender document, WHY DO YOU THINK IT WAS SIGNED BEHIND OUR BACKS WITHOUT OUR KNOWING !!!!
Go read it, that’s why I voted leave, it’s why I will continue to vote leave, and it’s why I will object and fight to stay out of the corrupt institution it is till the day I ****ing die.
Have an actual read of it then come back to me mate
 
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Stroller why this obsession with calling everybody who voted leave or voted for UKIP “far right”, 5 of my grandchildren are Muslim, my son in law is a Turkish muslim, some of my best friends are Black, Indian, Polish etc, I AM NOT FAR RIGHT, I AM NOT A RACIST, I AM NOT A EDL, NATIONAL FRONT MEMBER !!!!!
I am just a normal person that voted to leave a corrupt Organization, a normal person that does not want a new European army, a normal person who understands what the Lisbon 2020 treaty means, JUST A NORMAL PERSON.
PLEASE STOP ASSUMING IM FAR RIGHT BECAUSE I VOTE A CERTAIN WAY.
And of all the people YOU are against the freedom of movement ?
 
And of all the people YOU are against the freedom of movement ?
Where did I say I’m against the freedom of movement, when have I ever said that people should not be allowed to migrate, however what I have said is you cannot expect a country as tiny as ours to keep allowing “economic migrants “ to enter, migrants who are arriving in their thousands nay hundreds of thousands to saturate the education system, the national health system and the housing market, and don’t tell me these people are all refugees, because believe you me they are not.
If you are a genuine refugee fleeing persecution then you should be given maximum assistance but if you are nothing more than a chancer coming for benefits alone then you should be returned whence you came because for every chancer you allow in you are denying a genuine refugee refuge,if you wish to migrate here do it properly apply legally, the same as applies in Australia, Canada, the United States etc.
 
Where did I say I’m against the freedom of movement, when have I ever said that people should not be allowed to migrate, however what I have said is you cannot expect a country as tiny as ours to keep allowing “economic migrants “ to enter, migrants who are arriving in their thousands nay hundreds of thousands to saturate the education system, the national health system and the housing market, and don’t tell me these people are all refugees, because believe you me they are not.
If you are a genuine refugee fleeing persecution then you should be given maximum assistance but if you are nothing more than a chancer coming for benefits alone then you should be returned whence you came because for every chancer you allow in you are denying a genuine refugee refuge,if you wish to migrate here do it properly apply legally, the same as applies in Australia, Canada, the United States etc.

Hasn’t EU migration been proven again and again to benefit the economy considerably?
 
Where did I say I’m against the freedom of movement, when have I ever said that people should not be allowed to migrate, however what I have said is you cannot expect a country as tiny as ours to keep allowing “economic migrants “ to enter, migrants who are arriving in their thousands nay hundreds of thousands to saturate the education system, the national health system and the housing market, and don’t tell me these people are all refugees, because believe you me they are not.
If you are a genuine refugee fleeing persecution then you should be given maximum assistance but if you are nothing more than a chancer coming for benefits alone then you should be returned whence you came because for every chancer you allow in you are denying a genuine refugee refuge,if you wish to migrate here do it properly apply legally, the same as applies in Australia, Canada, the United States etc.
If the governments past and present actually enforced the immigration laws then all the above would be irrelevant but hey dont blame ourselves when it's so easier to blame someone else!
 
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If the governments past and present actually enforced the immigration laws then all the above would be irrelevant but hey dont blame ourselves when it's so easier to blame someone else!

With our low ‘indigenous’ birth rate and huge percentage of oldiewonks, unless we are going to bring in mandatory executions at 65 we’ll be needing some of dem immergrunts and some of them may have kids or get sick occasionally, the swines.
 
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With our low ‘indigenous’ birth rate and huge percentage of oldiewonks, unless we are going to bring in mandatory executions at 65 we’ll be needing some of dem immergrunts and some of them may have kids or get sick occasionally, the swines.
My mrs used the local hospital in lanzarote last year, they were fantastic. But if any of them there from that island dare come here and use ours I will be ****ing fuming!
 
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Where did I say I’m against the freedom of movement, when have I ever said that people should not be allowed to migrate, however what I have said is you cannot expect a country as tiny as ours to keep allowing “economic migrants “ to enter, migrants who are arriving in their thousands nay hundreds of thousands to saturate the education system, the national health system and the housing market, and don’t tell me these people are all refugees, because believe you me they are not.
If you are a genuine refugee fleeing persecution then you should be given maximum assistance but if you are nothing more than a chancer coming for benefits alone then you should be returned whence you came because for every chancer you allow in you are denying a genuine refugee refuge,if you wish to migrate here do it properly apply legally, the same as applies in Australia, Canada, the United States etc.
I sm referring to EU migration as well. I work in Europe and my family is in the UK and to date I was not granted a EU settlement status. What am I collateral damage ? For information purposes non EU migration is currently regulated by the UK so how does Brexit change, let alone improve the situation ? I can reassure you that i paid far more than received to the UK government.
 
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Shall I assume all reasonable Brexiters (including yourself) are in favour of free movement for EU citizens (no refugees escaping from any war but mostly honest taxpayers) ? If so Brexit, limited to migration, is not a solution unless....WHAT SORT OF MIGRATION ARE YOU FIGHTING ? (a) Non EU - then stop thinking EU is "bullying" the UK in any form or shape as of today, (b) EU - you don't like your country as they are either skilled professionals or in areas where UK citizens cannot/do not want to work or (c) ALL then no deal Brexit is your right belief. Can you please enlighted the 606 audience ?
 
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Hasn’t EU migration been proven again and again to benefit the economy considerably?
Oh yea, come and have a look at my ****ing street, within 3 years the population demographic has changed to such an extent that there are now only 4 indigenous families left, the rest are made up of Romanian, Bulgarian and Ukrainian’s, not of whom one has a ****ing job, the crime rate has ****ing trebled, what was once a quite Street is now subject to nightly fistfights, shouting,the occasional stabbing, criminal damage, vandalism to our cars, threats, abuse, and the whole area looks like a war zone, so please don’t ****ing give it large as to how this is a ****ing benefit to our economy.