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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Stroller

    Stroller Well-Known Member

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    Right from the start of this sorry Brexit process, it's only ever been about the Tory party.


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    Yes, you are right, there is a sneering attitude in play, most evidently from the liberal left. I think it cuts both ways though.
    Not as far as I can see. Certainly under current circumstances and with the current crop of politicians. If we are going to keep on in this direction let’s do it 100%. Do you really think Johnson is capable or interested in uniting the country, healing the divisions?

    Odd thing though, I think both Matt Hancock and Michael Gove have directly accused Corbyn of being anti Semitic, both outside the Commons, so no Parliamentary privilege (Gove shoehorned it into the debate the other night, when they were discussing Islamophobia in the Tory Party, a question which will now be ignored because the BBC let a zealot ask the question). Why doesn’t Corbyn sue them, get this over and done with? The answer may be too obvious to state........
     
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  3. Goldhawk-Road

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    You're right about the detail and preparation problems. I remember about 15 years ago, he turned up on Question Time, and everyone had been discussing the subject of the day. Boris hadn't even heard about it.

    He'll have a phalanx of advisors around him to keep him on the rails. I don't see him cocking anything up in the short term.

    The EU won't move, because they don't think Boris can get a no deal through Parliament. So I think the 31/10 date will pass, we'll get an extension and there will be a GE. That's when it really gets interesting. Who aligns with who. Then how many of the public will support Boris in going for a no deal.
     
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    By election triggered in Brecon and Radnorshire after recall petition successful following conviction of (Tory) MP Chris Davies for forging expense claims for £700 worth of photography (the idiot could have claimed this legitimately).

    Majority of over 8,000, should be safe from the Brexit Party........let’s see Boris out campaigning!
     
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  5. DT’s Socks

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    Good grief Col
    Churchill is dead mate and most know now he was nowhere near what history has made him out to be
    We were at war then and he got extremely lucky

    Look no doubt Brexit will be done no problem that is also history but if a nation votes for an option then surely there must be some plan in place

    Project fear has never been about fear it was sensible people raising concerns on what happens next. So in the now actually today in this moment there is still no plan
    There won’t be negotiation the U.K. has missed the boat the EU is fully prepared for a no deal or any other option. If anyone thinks that our lot will somehow be heroes for delivering the Brexit outcome then imo they are very dim people.

    We won’t rely on the luck of Churchill he was quickly got rid off after America and the Russians won WW2 . £39bn is not a lot of money for the EU to lose. They will recover that mark my works they are prepared and we are not .. nowhere near not even close ... it’s a blind punt and thank heavens for my family that we have a out

    The U.K. does not the skill set to react with something simple like rainfall.

    Churchill FFS ... did OK in history how has the U.K. done since then? That is the correct focus imo ? Accept it been nothing but decline since then
     
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  6. DT’s Socks

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    I am guessing 43% or less
    The EU are fully prepared
    Wake up Goldie
    Boris is a slideshow nothing more
     
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    It’s all over looking forward now to my QPR holidays in the U.K. in the future ... actually makes the matches even more exciting for me.

    Sell everything while you can
     
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    Boris is coming in at the same time as the guard changes in the EU. Knowing him, he'll forge some sort of relationship.

    I've heard several journalists say now, that behind the scenes, the EU are looking seriously at a technological solution to the border in Ireland. Success there would solve the problem and the amended withdrawal deal would get through Parliament. We'll see.
     
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    More bollocks from our resident own country hater.
    America and Russia won WW2?
    What a ****ing insult to all our war dead.

    You open your mouth and pure ****e comes spilling out.
     
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    We won the war. We just couldn’t have won it without them and some monumental mistakes on the part of old Adolf. Probably a good thing as I doubt I’d be here typing this otherwise.
     
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    I am seriously pished
     
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    You mean your sober the rest of the time, Ubes?!
     
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    Seldom.
     
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    I wouldn't bank on it Stan, Davies has announced he will be standing as an independent further denting what is certain to be a diminishing Tory vote, could be an open goal for the Brexit Party...
     
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    The left are going to be out for him with everything they've got. So will Hunt's camp.
     
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    No insult at all to any dead people on any side
    I love my county but I bloody hate the people running it
    I would insult Churchill however he sent many out to die through very bad mistakes back then

    So when you talk politics please don’t mention Churchill or any war that is totally wrong imo
     
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    Oh yes poor old Boris
    On the flip side he maybe a evil sod

    Looking forward when the tit cocks right up and you have to admit he is actually just another evil toff . Try some open thinking it’s healthy
     
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