Transfer Rumours City Transfer Thread - Jan 19

[Putter65]

Next season is likely to look a bit like this without additions.

Goalkeepers - Long, Burton, Mannion
Right backs: Lichaj, McKenzie
Left Backs: Kingsley, Fleming
Centre Bakcks: Burke, De Wijs. McDonald, McKenzie, Ritson
Midfield: Irvine Steward, Batty, Milinkovic Toral, McKenkie, Sheaf, Hamilton
Forwards: Lewis-Potter ??????????????????????

I put Mckenzie in three as he can be back up for 2 positions.

I expect us to get : 2 strikers, 2 wide men, a number 10, centre half and a full back. Middle of midfield looks okay. Stewart and Batty are unlucky not to get in the side at the minute.
7 new players. Mixtures of loans and league 1 signings. We spent 1.5 million on Burke last year so I expect a bit spent.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

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Members nite. Looks like all the match day crowd has turned up.

 

[Steven Toast]

Again it will depend on what if anything is given to our manager next season .. the majority of any sales will go into the Allams coffers .. i suspect yet again whomever leads us into next season will have to deal in cast offs .. bargain basement and loans .. the Allams dont give a sh1t about the footballing matters or the fans .. they just see pounds signs.

He's going to have a bit of money, certainly enough to buy some players with. I'd be surprised if any of them cost more than £1m in transfer fees, but I don't think it'll be as bleak as some are imagining. I know the Allams are a pair of top arseholes, but we have to be a little bit realistic amongst the poetic licence; Championship clubs need decent quality and there's some to be had from the leagues below.

Szmodics has a price tag of about £1m, we can afford that. For a number 10 who has scored 22 goals in his last two seasons, that's decent money, offset by the fact that Colchester are a League 2 club.

I'd have recommended Marcus Maddison at Peterborough, but their chairman is no mug and he's known for trying to squeeze the best out of bigger clubs. Gwion Edwards went to Ipswich for around £700,000 (he would actually be worth looking at as well) from them, so they'd probably want a couple of million for their star player. I'd also love to get Thiam from Barnsley, he looks a hell of a player, but he'd be well out of our price range and Barnsley will probably come back up.

There are some cracking free transfers to be had, I'd go for Nick Powell, Bradley Johnson, Timm Klose, Jake Bidwell, Luciano Narsingh and, assuming wages aren't massive, Tommy Elphick. Most of those are crocks, so they'd fit right into our transfer policy.

 

[Amin Arrears]

Should appoint me as director of football.

I said we should sign Neal Maupay about 5 years ago.

I said we should sign Kevin De Bruyne about 7 years ago.

Most importantly I’m good at doing **** all and getting away with it. I was born for the job.

 

[Steven Toast]

Should appoint me as director of football.

I said we should sign Neal Maupay about 5 years ago.

I said we should sign Kevin De Bruyne about 7 years ago.

Most importantly I’m good at doing **** all and getting away with it. I was born for the job.

But can you take 22 holidays a year, pick up a six figure salary and spend 20 days a year watching players you aren't going to sign?

 

[Tony Angelino]

But can you take 22 holidays a year, pick up a six figure salary and spend 20 days a year watching players you aren't going to sign?

Holidays must be taken in January and over the summer

 

[StCloudTiger]

He's going to have a bit of money, certainly enough to buy some players with. I'd be surprised if any of them cost more than £1m in transfer fees, but I don't think it'll be as bleak as some are imagining. I know the Allams are a pair of top arseholes, but we have to be a little bit realistic amongst the poetic licence; Championship clubs need decent quality and there's some to be had from the leagues below.

Szmodics has a price tag of about £1m, we can afford that. For a number 10 who has scored 22 goals in his last two seasons, that's decent money, offset by the fact that Colchester are a League 2 club.

I'd have recommended Marcus Maddison at Peterborough, but their chairman is no mug and he's known for trying to squeeze the best out of bigger clubs. Gwion Edwards went to Ipswich for around £700,000 (he would actually be worth looking at as well) from them, so they'd probably want a couple of million for their star player. I'd also love to get Thiam from Barnsley, he looks a hell of a player, but he'd be well out of our price range and Barnsley will probably come back up.

There are some cracking free transfers to be had, I'd go for Nick Powell, Bradley Johnson, Timm Klose, Jake Bidwell, Luciano Narsingh and, assuming wages aren't massive, Tommy Elphick. Most of those are crocks, so they'd fit right into our transfer policy.

Good post. Indeed our owners have faults for sure but making money is not one if them. They have correctly not renewed contracts for a dozen players that we the fans did not understand only to see those players not perform elsewhere. A number of their buys have also been very good too not to mention their managerial appointments. Yes we are going to buy cheap but that does not mean they will be poor players. UTT

 

[cheshireles]

Good post. Indeed our owners have faults for sure but making money is not one if them. They have correctly not renewed contracts for a dozen players that we the fans did not understand only to see those players not perform elsewhere. A number of their buys have also been very good too not to mention their managerial appointments. Yes we are going to buy cheap but that does not mean they will be poor players. UTT

The problem potentially is that if you overly rely on unproven or all young players, you are going to achieve absolutely nothing. Jordy is a example in question, he may well provide to be a great defender in time, and an astute acquisition, in the meantime he learns his trade making his mistakes in our first team.We certainly need a blend of experience and youth, and certainly need to avoid the major Summer overhauls that decimate our squad, and that otherwise could provide a solid foundation to build upon.

I'd certainly welcome Elphick back, whether we can afford his wages is another thing. If clubs are coming in to take our best players, say Jarrod, then we may be need to get 'cute' and consider taking player/s on loan from that buying club, and use the buying club to subsidise the loan players wages that otherwise may not be workable for ourselves.

The Allams have brought financial stability, but have failed miserably in investing in the club and its infrastructure despite the Premier League revenues for 3 seasons, plus parachute payments. They have failed to engage with their key stakeholders, the fans, in fact they have driven many away; this is now to the clubs detriment as gate revenue takes on greater importance with Premier League money gone. I may be wrong but suspect that falling gates will remove c£4-5m from the clubs revenue, no wonder they are making phone calls! However without concessions returning, and the next generation not engaging with their local club, the attendance figures will continue to dwindle. If the Allams think it won't fall further they are bigger fools then I thought, after all Nige, his team and the players have generally performed wonders this season, and how many are turning up? For the club to prosper again we need new owners, otherwise the lack of investment coupled with their mismanagement will lead us to League 1

 

[cheshireles]

Holidays must be taken in January and over the summer

Applies to the Vice Chairman as well apparently!

 

[originallambrettaman]

Players who left on a free in the past five seasons - Hernandez, Dawson, McGregor, Odubajo, Meyler, Bruce, Larsson, Aluko, Clark, Figueroa, Harper, McShane, Quinn, Rosenior, Sagbo, Townsend, Fryatt, Koren, Faye, Stewart and the legendary Proschwitz.

 

[Gone For A Walk]

The problem potentially is that if you overly rely on unproven or all young players, you are going to achieve absolutely nothing. Jordy is a example in question, he may well provide to be a great defender in time, and an astute acquisition, in the meantime he learns his trade making his mistakes in our first team.We certainly need a blend of experience and youth, and certainly need to avoid the major Summer overhauls that decimate our squad, and that otherwise could provide a solid foundation to build upon.

I'd certainly welcome Elphick back, whether we can afford his wages is another thing. If clubs are coming in to take our best players, say Jarrod, then we may be need to get 'cute' and consider taking player/s on loan from that buying club, and use the buying club to subsidise the loan players wages that otherwise may not be workable for ourselves.

The Allams have brought financial stability, but have failed miserably in investing in the club and its infrastructure despite the Premier League revenues for 3 seasons, plus parachute payments. They have failed to engage with their key stakeholders, the fans, in fact they have driven many away; this is now to the clubs detriment as gate revenue takes on greater importance with Premier League money gone. I may be wrong but suspect that falling gates will remove c£4-5m from the clubs revenue, no wonder they are making phone calls! However without concessions returning, and the next generation not engaging with their local club, the attendance figures will continue to dwindle. If the Allams think it won't fall further they are bigger fools then I thought, after all Nige, his team and the players have generally performed wonders this season, and how many are turning up? For the club to prosper again we need new owners, otherwise the lack of investment coupled with their mismanagement will lead us to League 1

The Allams have not brought financial stability. The club is (allegedly) £50 (FIFTY!!) Million in debt.

 

[howdentiger]

The Allams have not brought financial stability. The club is (allegedly) £50 (FIFTY!!) Million in debt.

The club is one of the most financially stable clubs in the league. Just because you have debt don't make you financially unstable. Man utd owe 100s of million and I'm pretty sure you'd class them as financially stable.

Once the club is sold and the debts paid. I would take our financial position any day of the week as a football club

 

[amberman8]

Good post. Indeed our owners have faults for sure but making money is not one if them. They have correctly not renewed contracts for a dozen players that we the fans did not understand only to see those players not perform elsewhere. A number of their buys have also been very good too not to mention their managerial appointments. Yes we are going to buy cheap but that does not mean they will be poor players. UTT

Ehab is that you again?

 

[Steven Toast]

The problem potentially is that if you overly rely on unproven or all young players, you are going to achieve absolutely nothing. Jordy is a example in question, he may well provide to be a great defender in time, and an astute acquisition, in the meantime he learns his trade making his mistakes in our first team.We certainly need a blend of experience and youth, and certainly need to avoid the major Summer overhauls that decimate our squad, and that otherwise could provide a solid foundation to build upon.

I'd certainly welcome Elphick back, whether we can afford his wages is another thing. If clubs are coming in to take our best players, say Jarrod, then we may be need to get 'cute' and consider taking player/s on loan from that buying club, and use the buying club to subsidise the loan players wages that otherwise may not be workable for ourselves.

The Allams have brought financial stability, but have failed miserably in investing in the club and its infrastructure despite the Premier League revenues for 3 seasons, plus parachute payments. They have failed to engage with their key stakeholders, the fans, in fact they have driven many away; this is now to the clubs detriment as gate revenue takes on greater importance with Premier League money gone. I may be wrong but suspect that falling gates will remove c£4-5m from the clubs revenue, no wonder they are making phone calls! However without concessions returning, and the next generation not engaging with their local club, the attendance figures will continue to dwindle. If the Allams think it won't fall further they are bigger fools then I thought, after all Nige, his team and the players have generally performed wonders this season, and how many are turning up? For the club to prosper again we need new owners, otherwise the lack of investment coupled with their mismanagement will lead us to League 1

We will have decent enough quality in the likes of Stewart, De Wijs, Lichaj, Burke, Batty, Toral, Kingsley and Irvine, backed up with Fleming, McKenzie, Lewis-Potter, Mannion and Hamilton. A few signings will bolster that group.

What little money we have should be invested in lower league talent that can work at this level. A few loans will round the squad out nicely.

Until the Allams go, promotion shouldn't be the aim, staying in the Championship should. We aren't going to compete with the top end of the Championship, certainly not with those who are just coming down. We've done fantastically well this year, but our goal was achieved in early 2019. The same again next season would be great, if the owners aren't going to sell up.

 

[Obadiah]

The club is one of the most financially stable clubs in the league. Just because you have debt don't make you financially unstable. Man utd owe 100s of million and I'm pretty sure you'd class them as financially stable.

Once the club is sold and the debts paid. I would take our financial position any day of the week as a football club

That depends on how the debts are paid and whether the new owner can afford to pay £50 million to the Allams.

 

[originallambrettaman]

That depends on how the debts are paid and whether the new owner can afford to pay £50 million to the Allams.

Nobody's going to pay the Allams £50m, nobody will have to. They'll cash in on whatever players they can and only the shortfall will need to be made up by the new owner.

 

[cheshireles]

Nobody's going to pay the Allams £50m, nobody will have to. They'll cash in on whatever players they can and only the shortfall will need to be made up by the new owner.

If anybody does (very unlikely) then they've certainly got some ambition or in turn would realise funds from assets sold post a purchase at c£50m.

I agree though, more likely 2-3 players are sold and a sale price of c£30m possible

 

[Newland Tiger]

If anybody does (very unlikely) then they've certainly got some ambition or in turn would realise funds from assets sold post a purchase at c£50m.

I agree though, more likely 2-3 players are sold and a sale price of c£30m possible

What exactly would you get for £30 million though , can't see us been too attractive to many buyers

 

[Obadiah]

Nobody's going to pay the Allams £50m, nobody will have to. They'll cash in on whatever players they can and only the shortfall will need to be made up by the new owner.

Nobody's going to pay the Allams £30 million for what is left after the end of this season if they sell every player with any value.

 

[cheshireles]

What exactly would you get for £30 million though , can't see us been too attractive to many buyers

A ticket to the Premier League lotto!

If Bowen, Grosicki and Henriksen are sold say for c£20m, it doesn't leave a lot in player assets. Possibly a sell on bonus if Harry moves on. Championship TV money. I believe its been mentioned that without parachute payments the clubs revenue next season will be c£20m, with £10-12m of that going on salaries it's realistic to expect a gross profit of c£2m so c£30m might be workable in terms of due dil. That said, sign a couple of players and that all goes out the window. Equally a new owner could potentially increase gate revenue without too much effort.

Any new owner will have to invest to accumulate if their objective ultimately is The Premier League, and that's easier said then done as a number of current high spending Championship clubs would testify! I seem to recollect when we were first promoted to The Premier League we posted a loss of c£8m?