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["Thanks for that Brian"]

2016/17
Ashley Williams £12,000,000
Yannick Bolasie £25,000,000
Morgan Schneiderlin £24,000,000

2017/18
Davy Klaassen £23,600,000
Jordan Pickford £25,000,000
Michael Keane £25,000,000
Sandro £5,200,000
Henry Onyekuru £7,000,000
Wayne Rooney ????????
Lewis Gibson £6,000,000
Nikola Vlašić £10,000,000
Gylfi Sigurdsson £45,000,000
Theo Walcott £20,000,000
Cenk Tosun £27,000,000

2018/19
Yerry Mina £27,900,000
Lucas Digne £18,000,000
Richarlison £35,000,000

In 3 seasons, that's in excess of £340m without even asking what money was wasted on the Wayne Rooney fiasco.........Three Hundred and Forty Million Pounds......THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION POUNDS!!!

That doesn't begin to account for the cost of sacking Martinez.....hiring Koeman......sacking Koeman........hiring BFS..........sacking BFS..........hiring Marco Silva.........sacking............

How the **** this circus is supposed to build a stadium and pay for it?.......... I wouldn't lend them sixpence.

 

[PowerSpurs]

2016/17
Ashley Williams £12,000,000
Yannick Bolasie £25,000,000
Morgan Schneiderlin £24,000,000

2017/18
Davy Klaassen £23,600,000
Jordan Pickford £25,000,000
Michael Keane £25,000,000
Sandro £5,200,000
Henry Onyekuru £7,000,000
Wayne Rooney ????????
Lewis Gibson £6,000,000
Nikola Vlašić £10,000,000
Gylfi Sigurdsson £45,000,000
Theo Walcott £20,000,000
Cenk Tosun £27,000,000

2018/19
Yerry Mina £27,900,000
Lucas Digne £18,000,000
Richarlison £35,000,000

In 3 seasons, that's in excess of £340m without even asking what money was wasted on the Wayne Rooney fiasco.........Three Hundred and Forty Million Pounds......THREE HUNDRED AND FORTY MILLION POUNDS!!!

That doesn't begin to account for the cost of sacking Martinez.....hiring Koeman......sacking Koeman........hiring BFS..........sacking BFS..........hiring Marco Silva.........sacking............

How the **** this circus is supposed to build a stadium and pay for it?.......... I wouldn't lend them sixpence.

Spending money is definitely the right plan though.....

 

[BobbyD]

Spending money is definitely the right plan though.....

likewise im sure liverpool are crying about it too

 

[The RDBD]

likewise im sure liverpool are crying about it too

Straight out of the Diego school of WUM wannabee.

 

[BobbyD]

Straight out of the Diego school of WUM wannabee.

it's not a wum. Powerspurs advocates spending zilch by saying spending money doesn't work. What everyone knows is that you need to spend the money right and you've only been moaning about not having the squad capable of challenging for titles.

It's been blatantly obvious you've needed some centre midfield reinforcements as dembeles been getting on for a good few years and wanyamas barely kicked a ball in the last 2 years.

Sissoko has gone from strength to strength this year and dier is dier (solid and has his ups and downs) and winks i believe was coming back from a serious injury. So before everyone knew sissoko was going to be good this year, you effectively only had 2 CMs.

Look at Liverpool, a complete laughing stock defensively, 2 signings and their challenging for the title. You boys were potentially 3 points off before liverpool meet city. Are you saying 2 brilliant signings wouldn't have made the difference?

 

[The RDBD]

it's not a wum. Powerspurs advocates spending zilch by saying spending money doesn't work.

Nope. He said :

"Spending money is definitely the right plan though"

Mocking the notion that throwing money at the problem
(gross and nett spend) is the primary solution to the problem.


[ rest of your text snipped as it is a dig at Spurs wrapped in
fallacy attempting to be presented as reasoned debate.

Or more succinctly : a posting for the "No sh*t, Sherlock" article. ]

 

[BobbyD]

Nope. He said :

"Spending money is definitely the right plan though"

Mocking the notion that throwing money at the problem
(gross and nett spend) is the primary solution to the problem.


[ rest of your text snipped as it is a dig at Spurs wrapped in
fallacy attempting to be presented as reasoned debate. ]

take it how you will but if you ever want to be a challenger rather than floating water, you will need to spend money (which is why you're building a new stadium, to increase your revenue, else why would you even bother)

 

[PowerSpurs]

take it how you will but if you ever want to be a challenger rather than floating water, you will need to spend money (which is why you're building a new stadium, to increase your revenue, else why would you even bother)

Of course spending money gives you a better chance. But if Everton cannot improve their mediocre squad by spending 340m how much would we need to spend to improve ours? Jamie Carragher had it right the other day...only players worth upwards of 60m will be guaranteed to make our squad better. If we can afford one or two of those then go for it. It's mediocre players like Seri, Andre Gomes and Richarlison that I don't think we need. Everyone on this board, including me, would have been delighted if we had signed Seri and sold Sissoko. We'd have probably had 10 fewer points if we had.

 

[bigsmithy9]

I think our main problem v Wolves was...we couldn't score that second goal that would have put Wolves to sleep.It encouraged Wolves and discouraged us....and bingo....Spurs 1 Wolves 3.

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Of course spending money gives you a better chance. But if Everton cannot improve their mediocre squad by spending 340m how much would we need to spend to improve ours? Jamie Carragher had it right the other day...only players worth upwards of 60m will be guaranteed to make our squad better. If we can afford one or two of those then go for it. It's mediocre players like Seri, Andre Gomes and Richarlison that I don't think we need. Everyone on this board, including me, would have been delighted if we had signed Seri and sold Sissoko. We'd have probably had 10 fewer points if we had.

There are things that we need to do to improve our squad, though.
We have empty spaces and some of our players are being run into the ground because of it.
Pochettino clearly doesn't want other members that are taking up space, so they need to move on.
That doesn't require £60m per player and it should've been done in the summer.

As for Everton's spending, it's largely been ineffective because of the scattergun approach to signings and the lack of direction on the pitch.
They keep changing managers every five minutes and each one has no similarity with the last, so their squad becomes more of a mess each time.
Moyes to Martinez to Koeman to Allardyce to Silva in the space of five years? Who's picking these coaches and what's the criteria?
They're also wasting a ton of youth talent and chucking money away suppressing them, too.

 

["Thanks for that Brian"]

There are things that we need to do to improve our squad, though.
We have empty spaces and some of our players are being run into the ground because of it.
Pochettino clearly doesn't want other members that are taking up space, so they need to move on.
That doesn't require £60m per player and it should've been done in the summer.

As for Everton's spending, it's largely been ineffective because of the scattergun approach to signings and the lack of direction on the pitch.
They keep changing managers every five minutes and each one has no similarity with the last, so their squad becomes more of a mess each time.
Moyes to Martinez to Koeman to Allardyce to Silva in the space of five years? Who's picking these coaches and what's the criteria?
They're also wasting a ton of youth talent and chucking money away suppressing them, too.

Everton's main problem is that they want to make the leap from also-ran to PL 'playas' in one mighty leap. However, they haven't won the really big bucks like Citeh and Chelsea, which enables a club to dazzle top young players with their ambition and reward them with top level wages.

Everton have slightly more money than Wolves or the Spammers. Enough to seriously overpay for Gylfi and attract Lil Theo. With that level of cash, you need time and patience to find bargains and develop young talent. Until they get Usmanov involved or commit to running the club better, it'll continue to come unstuck.

I'm still hugely uncertain how they're going to pay back the kind of cash a new stadium will cost them. That's about £600-700m of debt and they're living hand to mouth and consistently failing to get into Europe, which would give them some sort of hope of paying that kind of money off. Adding 14,000 extra to their existing gate is a drop in that ocean of debt.

 

[remembercolinlee]

IMHO a big club is going to go under from over spending. Everton, Fulham and West Ham are showing that colossal spending is not a guarantee of moving forward.
Fulham look a sure bet to go down and West Ham and Everton are not looking like they will break into the top 6 any time soon. In fact (while West Ham look better than last year, which is no big feat in all honesty) they both look average. Everton look no better than they did under Martinez or Fat Sam.

 

["Thanks for that Brian"]

IMHO a big club is going to go under from over spending. Everton, Fulham and West Ham are showing that colossal spending is not a guarantee of moving forward.
Fulham look a sure bet to go down and West Ham and Everton are not looking like they will break into the top 6 any time soon. In fact (while West Ham look better than last year, which is no big feat in all honesty) they both look average. Everton look no better than they did under Martinez or Fat Sam.

Spurs stadium build comes from nearly 20 years of profitability, sustained European football - season in and season out, multi-use including the NFL and getting the kind of sponsorship that doesn't come to a club that's regularly finishing 8th - they've got Angry Birds as a shirt sponsor FFS!

I could see them getting themselves in financial trouble if they go 'big' on the build and if I was a Liverpool Council Tax payer, I'd be as happy about their involvement as I am about Boris, The Spammers and The White Elephant.

 

[Blue and White]

IMHO a big club is going to go under from over spending. Everton, Fulham and West Ham are showing that colossal spending is not a guarantee of moving forward.
Fulham look a sure bet to go down and West Ham and Everton are not looking like they will break into the top 6 any time soon. In fact (while West Ham look better than last year, which is no big feat in all honesty) they both look average. Everton look no better than they did under Martinez or Fat Sam.

Man Utd must be on the brink . Yes they earn loads but their expenses just get bigger. They spend huge amounts on transfers, wages and manager pay offs. It can collapse.

 

[The RDBD]

Man Utd must be on the brink . Yes they earn loads but their expenses just get bigger. They spend huge amounts on transfers, wages and manager pay offs. It can collapse.

Nowhere close.

IMHO it would take a good 4 continual seasons of no CL with current
wage levels to really start the alarm bells ringing. I suspect that
well before then (as MUFC is a plc) that there would be major
shareholders in revolt against the Glazers.

The Goons are a more interesting measure (check Swiss Ramble etc) .
Their wage bill is creeping up towards PL title winner levels without
being champions, and they have a good two consecutive seasons of
Emmerdale League participation.

 

[bigsmithy9]

Don't you love the Liverpool manager so happy. Better warn him to order in a lot of hankies,'cos tomorrow and the next day could bring tears...…..!

 

[Roo]

Spammers losing to Brighton!

 

[Roo]

****ing hell. RCL’d myself there in seconds. 2-2!

 

[remembercolinlee]

****ing hell. RCL’d myself there in seconds. 2-2!

dumbass learned nothing from 2 fecking yrs off watching a master at work

 

[Roo]

dumbass learned nothing from 2 fecking yrs off watching a master at work

Knew that was coming. I deserve it to be fair.