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[DT’s Socks]

The statistic shows the seasonally adjusted youth unemployment rate in Europe (EU member states) as of May 2018. In this month, the seasonally adjusted youth unemployment rate in Spain was at 33.8 percent. The source defines youth unemployment as unemployment of those younger than 25 years.
Youth unemployment rate in Europe

Unemployment is a crucial economic factor for a country; youth unemployment is often examined separately because it tends to be higher than unemployment in older age groups. It comprises the unemployment figures of a country’s labor force aged 15 to 24 years old (i.e. the earliest point at which mandatory school education ends). Typically, teenagers and those in their twenties who are fresh out of education do not find jobs right away, especially if the country’s economy is experiencing difficulties, as can be seen above. Additionally, it also tends to be higher in emerging markets than in industrialized nations. Worldwide, youth unemployment figures have not changed significantly over the last decade, nor are they expected to improve in the next few years.

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In the European Union and the euro area, unemployment in general has been on the rise since 2008, which is due to the economic crisis which caused bankruptcy and financial trouble for many employers, and thus led to considerable job loss, less job offerings, and consequently, to a rise of the unemployment rate. Older workers are struggling to find new jobs despite their experience, and young graduates are struggling to find new jobs, because they have none. All in all, the number of unemployed persons worldwide is projected to rise, this is not down to the economic crisis alone, but also the industrial automation of processes previously performed by workers, as well as rising population figures.

It’s far too long this post Kiwi
You should be limited by a character count like Twitter

I can tell you a man loses a job every 2.56 days in England and after 3years he has finally realised he’s a little bit **** and possibly unemployable

 

[sb_73]

Firstly, the regulation you speak of was repealed by Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) No 1333/2011 of 19 December 2011 laying down marketing standards for bananas, rules on the verification of compliance with those marketing standards and requirements for notifications in the banana sector with effect as of 9 January 2012, which specifically limited the bendiness of a banana.

Oh and a nice article by the Guardian, that you drew your quote from, however incomplete the article was.

But lets not quibble of EU regulations, my quoting of this, was to draw reference to your assumption, that a big EU, was somehow better, my response, something that big should not be concerned as to the shape of bananas for sale, but more concerned with members countries acting inhumanely to immigrants, shipping them off, to some Alcatraz style "accommodation".

If, in your view, we should not have marketing standards for bananas or other stuff we put in our mouths, that’s fine. Whatever the regulations are it’s more efficient to have them covering 500 million people so that something imported here via somewhere else, or to somewhere else via here, doesn’t have to go through two sets of regulation, adding to the cost for the consumer.

Should we have let the immigrants come here instead? Fears about inhumanity to immigrants (even immigrants with criminal records who have failed asylum applications but can’t be sent home to a war zone - because that really would be inhumane) is a new argument from a Brexiter to me, nice one.

But your team has won all these arguments already with 52% of the people who voted, why keep the old record going? We’ll be setting all our own standards for everything on 30 March next year anyway. Unless we just adopt the EU ones of course.

 

[kiwiqpr]

It’s far too long this post Kiwi
You should be limited by a character count like Twitter

I can tell you a man loses a job every 2.56 days in England and after 3years he has finally realised he’s a little bit **** and possibly unemployable

that man cant be very good if he keeps getting the sack every two and a half days

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

There was more than one Leave vote, Goldie.

I heard someone on the radio yesterday banging on about how all these EU immigrants were the reason that the NHS can't cope. In reality (and apart from the Tories underfunding it), it's EU immigrants going home that's causing NHS staff shortages.

We should take what we need. A lot of immigrants work for the NHS, but a lot more don't, come here and start a family. Good luck to them but that takes NHS time. The scale of immigration has to be sustainable.

 

[bobmid]

Cracker from a lad at work today. I asked how he voted and his thoughts, only known him a day or 2, he's a simple soul bless him. " I voted leave so we can chuck all the Muslims out". I didn't carry on the conversation.

 

[KPDHoopster]

If, in your view, we should not have marketing standards for bananas or other stuff we put in our mouths, that’s fine. Whatever the regulations are it’s more efficient to have them covering 500 million people so that something imported here via somewhere else, or to somewhere else via here, doesn’t have to go through two sets of regulation, adding to the cost for the consumer.

Straight bananas are fine by me !!

But seriously, you think multiple regulations, covering the shape of bananas, are worthwhile time for politicians ??

 

[ELLERS]

Bloody hell got to give credit where credits due..
Liam Fox is being very statesman-like at the moment. He has just said that "Parliament, voted to implement the outcome of the referendum and we must". And "talk of another referendum? Don't expect the status quo (remain) to be on it. We are moving forward".
He them slaughtered Labour knocking 'leavers' and their reasons for leaving. Then John MacDonnell opened his mouth and Fox slaughtered him telling him that "Labour live in dreamland and talk nonsense". MacDonnell got the hump, got up and blurted something, so Fox said "you are out of your depth. What a shambles".
Fox then said something about the deal and how Labour's ideas were not possible and gave him the floor to tell the house if he could explain one of the rules. "go on then here's the floor, it's quite simple, tell us"! (what some rule was), Come on"! MacDonnell just sat there looking stupid. "you have no idea"! Fox said.
I hope they show it on the News as MacDonnell made himself look a t@@t.

 

[ELLERS]

Cracker from a lad at work today. I asked how he voted and his thoughts, only known him a day or 2, he's a simple soul bless him. " I voted leave so we can chuck all the Muslims out". I didn't carry on the conversation.

If someone at work asked me who I voted for I would tell them to mind their own business. saying that people at work wouldn't discuss it.

 

[sb_73]

Straight bananas are fine by me !!

But seriously, you think multiple regulations, covering the shape of bananas, are worthwhile time for politicians ??

No, but they are for civil servants who actually do the work, and it’s about the ease of trade and consumer satisfaction, ultimately.

Seriously, there are much more important things you could highlight about the EU which are seriously wrong and I wouldn’t have a leg to stand on - the € for example, it will never make sense to have a monetary union without a fiscal union which really would change the nature of national sovereignty. The way it works now is great for Germany, but no one else. Or the way the EU Parliament works, which is just a farce.

It’s why I said I like the idea of the EU but not in all cases the practice.

What would Frank Costello say?

 

[rangercol]

If, in your view, we should not have marketing standards for bananas or other stuff we put in our mouths, that’s fine. Whatever the regulations are it’s more efficient to have them covering 500 million people so that something imported here via somewhere else, or to somewhere else via here, doesn’t have to go through two sets of regulation, adding to the cost for the consumer.

Should we have let the immigrants come here instead? Fears about inhumanity to immigrants (even immigrants with criminal records who have failed asylum applications but can’t be sent home to a war zone - because that really would be inhumane) is a new argument from a Brexiter to me, nice one.

But your team has won all these arguments already with 52% of the people who voted, why keep the old record going? We’ll be setting all our own standards for everything on 30 March next year anyway. Unless we just adopt the EU ones of course.

But it would be OUR decision to adopt the EU ones and NOT THEIRS!!
That's the crux of it.

 

[DT’s Socks]

that man cant be very good if he keeps getting the sack every two and a half days

Yes that was the idea of the joke soldier x

 

[DT’s Socks]

If someone at work asked me who I voted for I would tell them to mind their own business. saying that people at work wouldn't discuss it.

Have you beaten them into submission as well with your iPad factoids ?
Don’t mention Brexit to that Ellers fella you will lose time that you won’t get back

 

[ELLERS]

What I think we should realize is that trade with the EU has been continually shrinking over the years.
I have seen many German companies locally move their manufacturing back to Germany and France. Germany runs the EU and rips off the smaller countries. France is a poor mans Germany (that don't work on Wednesdays and Saturdays).
It is my belief that over time they will try to take most stuff away from the UK. Macron has basically said this recently. Germany has tried and failed to take companies away from London. Even the Dutch have tried to get a slice of the Brexit cake.
I do not think we can ever go back to the EU (not for at least 40 yrs) because they will treat us badly and will make sure they entice companies to leave the UK.
I guess it's like a relationship in that we have 'done the dirty on our partner'. They can forgive us but will never forget and there will always be that trust lost. Only this relationship has never been that good... a better relationship lies just across the sea and has blond hair (well a dodgy wig).

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

What I think we should realize is that trade with the EU has been continually shrinking over the years.
I have seen many German companies locally move their manufacturing back to Germany and France. Germany runs the EU and rips off the smaller countries. France is a poor mans Germany (that don't work on Wednesdays and Saturdays).
It is my belief that over time they will try to take most stuff away from the UK. Macron has basically said this recently. Germany has tried and failed to take companies away from London. Even the Dutch have tried to get a slice of the Brexit cake.
I do not think we can ever go back to the EU (not for at least 40 yrs) because they will treat us badly and will make sure they entice companies to leave the UK.
I guess it's like a relationship in that we have 'done the dirty on our partner'. They can forgive us but will never forget and there will always be that trust lost. Only this relationship has never been that good... a better relationship lies just across the sea and has blond hair (well a dodgy wig).

As a percentage, yes, which is to be expected. But trade with the EU has increased massively over the years.

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[DT’s Socks]

We should take what we need. A lot of immigrants work for the NHS, but a lot more don't, come here and start a family. Good luck to them but that takes NHS time. The scale of immigration has to be sustainable.

A lot more immigrants work outside the NHS than inside it. The UK can only guess at any figures because of years of lack of funding to the border controls and the inland services tasked with tracking down illegal immigrants

Any Brexiteer that voted leave because of immigration is frankly a very stupid person
The associated link between Immigrants and Europe is totally wrong ... you have eaten the wrong porridge

Immigration is completely sustainable with the right resource to manage it ... it has been poorly managed and funded and frankly no one cared anyway so in true AS fashion they blame all social problems on immigrants and then hook that somehow into Europe

You open up a shop don’t complain who enters it and if you have no store security then well what would anyone expect?

Plus painting a picture that immigrants are just freeloaders looking to breed here is a utter disgrace imo ... for every one immigrant I could show you 25 lazy cheating English workshy ****s fleecing the system on the black

About time more people looked inwards at the UK and what it is today ****ing Brexit won’t solve any of that crap

Brexit slogan to take control of our borders
Now even having the decency to admit control was sold out and lost ourselves ... best blame the EU then

Made in England by English People

Blame Culture ****s

 

[ELLERS]

As a percentage, yes, which is to be expected. But trade with the EU has increased massively over the years.

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I heard that it had fallen and continues to fall?

 

[DT’s Socks]

As a percentage, yes, which is to be expected. But trade with the EU has increased massively over the years.

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That is a proper graph and again Maggies brainwashed jester has got it wrong

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

I heard that it had fallen and continues to fall?

As a share of the total.

 

[ELLERS]

As a share of the total.

You are sounding like that politician that was on yesterday.

 

[Staines R's]

Cracker from a lad at work today. I asked how he voted and his thoughts, only known him a day or 2, he's a simple soul bless him. " I voted leave so we can chuck all the Muslims out". I didn't carry on the conversation.

Are you sure you didn’t make that up Bob ?
If not then it’s very sad that you have to work with such thick ****s.