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Perhaps Geoff inadvertently used the wrong terminology in the statement. He said any new owners will have to consult with the HCST. If I bought the club I would of course get the HCST on board. But would I have to? Apart from any rules already applying to fans consultation etc it did come across as a bit dictatorial which has ruffled a few feathers. I’m sure he didn’t mean it in that context.
 
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Clovis Iscariot said:
Perhaps Geoff inadvertently used the wrong terminology in the statement. He said any new owners will have to consult with the HCST. If I bought the club I would of course get the HCST on board. But would I have to? Apart from any rules already applying to fans consultation etc it did come across as a bit dictatorial which has ruffled a few feathers. I’m sure he didn’t mean it in that context.
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I know the trust and Geoff have the club at heart, as do we all, but they do get carried away with how much "influence " they have.

I have to attend a daily briefing at work, most days I need not be there. I also have 3 mandatory meetings to attend with "partner agencies". In these I listen to their gripes but nothing much more.

As a owner of a football club I am sure I could attend a quarterly meeting with supporters groups, meet my obligations and change sod all.

The trust have raised several key issues (and done so well), but have they achieved much?

Again, I am not knocking the trust, however no supporters group have any real power. Some are just better engaged by better oweners
 
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Clovis Iscariot said:
Also, anyone who thinks the SportyCo/ Jarvis bid is worth a punt needs their heads examining.
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I think the bid we haven't heard about is probably the one that will happen

As I said earlier I think Jarvis is just a chancer , he doesn't actually seem to have done much except post pictures on instagram
 
citycityhull said:
I know the trust and Geoff have the club at heart, as do we all, but they do get carried away with how much "influence " they have.

I have to attend a daily briefing at work, most days I need not be there. I also have 3 mandatory meetings to attend with "partner agencies". In these I listen to their gripes but nothing much more.

As a owner of a football club I am sure I could attend a quarterly meeting with supporters groups, meet my obligations and change sod all.

The trust have raised several key issues (and done so well), but have they achieved much?

Again, I am not knocking the trust, however no supporters group have any real power. Some are just better engaged by better oweners
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The fundamental problem the trust and Sportyco have is that they seek to gain an agreement with the Allams, then, and only then, seek to raise the funds to complete the acquisition. If Duffen and his backers are anywhere near the end of DD they should be over the line if they can agree a price 2-3 months before the trust! The trust would only stand a chance in the event of no other bidders.
 
cheshireles said:
The fundamental problem the trust and Sportyco have is that they seek to gain an agreement with the Allams, then, and only then, seek to raise the funds to complete the acquisition. If Duffen and his backers are anywhere near the end of DD they should be over the line if they can agree a price 2-3 months before the trust! The trust would only stand a chance in the event of no other bidders.
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And that chance has been blown by them already showing their hand and 'offering' £45m. If there are no takers at the end of January you could probably pick the club up for **** all.
 
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citycityhull said:
I know the trust and Geoff have the club at heart, as do we all, but they do get carried away with how much "influence " they have.

I have to attend a daily briefing at work, most days I need not be there. I also have 3 mandatory meetings to attend with "partner agencies". In these I listen to their gripes but nothing much more.

As a owner of a football club I am sure I could attend a quarterly meeting with supporters groups, meet my obligations and change sod all.

The trust have raised several key issues (and done so well), but have they achieved much?

Again, I am not knocking the trust, however no supporters group have any real power. Some are just better engaged by better oweners
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I'm under no illusion that the trust has any power. I don't believe the rest of the trust board would hold the belief that we have power either.

As for what we've done. We successfully campaigned to stop the name of Hull City AFC being changed to Hull Tigers. That's the main thing in my opinion. I'm also quite proud of the work we did in demonstrating to the owners how they could bring back concessions and increase revenue in doing so, with a model which also proved popular supporters.

We're more or less permanently campaigning against some stupid idea of the Allams, and more often than not it's an issue where they hold all the cards and can choose to ignore us. Because of that, I completely understand how it can feel like we're ineffective at times. But as I said, I'm proud of what we have achieved.
 
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PLT said:
I'm under no illusion that the trust has any power. I don't believe the rest of the trust board would hold the belief that we have power either.

As for what we've done. We successfully campaigned to stop the name of Hull City AFC being changed to Hull Tigers. That's the main thing in my opinion. I'm also quite proud of the work we did in demonstrating to the owners how they could bring back concessions and increase revenue in doing so, with a model which also proved popular supporters.

We're more or less permanently campaigning against some stupid idea of the Allams, and more often than not it's an issue where they hold all the cards and can choose to ignore us. Because of that, I completely understand how it can feel like we're ineffective at times. But as I said, I'm proud of what we have achieved.
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I always thought that if people are Trust members and want to have more influence in how the Trust operates then they have every opportunity to do so by standing for a position on the Board or taking proposals to meetings
I’ve also thought that if people aren’t Trust members then it’s nothing to do with them how the Trust operates.

[HASHTAG]#justsaying[/HASHTAG]
 
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dennisboothstash said:
I always thought that if people are Trust members and want to have more influence in how the Trust operates then they have every opportunity to do so by standing for a position on the Board or taking proposals to meetings
I’ve also thought that if people aren’t Trust members then it’s nothing to do with them how the Trust operates.

[HASHTAG]#justsaying[/HASHTAG]
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Allam would say that if you aren't board members then how the club operates has nothing to do with you.

Whilst supportive of the trust and its aims it only in reality represents relatively few fans.
 
Barchullona said:
Allam would say that if you aren't board members then how the club operates has nothing to do with you.

Whilst supportive of the trust and its aims it only in reality represents relatively few fans.
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Only because relatively few are members
If everyone was it would represent everyone
 
Barchullona said:
Allam would say that if you aren't board members then how the club operates has nothing to do with you.

Whilst supportive of the trust and its aims it only in reality represents relatively few fans.
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Allam would probably say that if you aren't the majority owner then how the club operates has nothing to do with you.
 
dennisboothstash said:
Only because relatively few are members
If everyone was it would represent everyone
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Yes, but there aren't and they don't. I was a member of the original action group but in reality we only represented a small proportion of the fans, though probably a higher proportion than now as the crowds then were smaller.
The fact is the HCST only represent a small proportion of the fans, just as the views of those on here and other forums only represent a small proportion of the fans. Which is why the majority of the fans don't get involved in demonstrations most of the time. They remain silent or walk away as many have done.
 
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