A great read if you are into masochism:
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/48516//?scrollto=post59321
https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/news/48516//?scrollto=post59321
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Two things.
1. I am not at all liking Jordan's use of the word 'demise'. I have no counter which is even worse.
2. It sounds like a pre-negotiation buyers pitch. Pointing out why the business is only worth X when it's supposed to be valued at 3X.
Very eloquent and completely accurate.
I'll be honest with you: I've always quite liked Jordan's straight-talking persona. I'd take him over Fernandes any day. Frankly, I'd take Helen Keller over Fernandes.
There's nothing in that piece that isn't true or unfair in my opinion, other than perhaps lumping Briatore and Eccleston into the equation, as they got the club into the PL, made their nice return and (presumably) left it in a then stable financial footing for Fat-**** Tony to come in and wreck.
I'm rapidly moving from labelling Fernandes a 'plucky amateur' to thinking that what the whole ****ing bunch of them have presided over is ****ing criminal. Jordan is right: just look at all the money behind Fernandes, Mittal, Bhatia, Gnamadamadingdong et al, look at their supposed business acumen, their rise to 'captain of industry' mogul status. How the ****ety-**** did they allow this bollocks to descend upon our club?
****s.
I need a drink.
Chin up Ubes, it's Eid, I'm off work and having a martini on the terrace
The only way is up
Contrary to how I'm coming across on this thread, Wubba, I'm feeling quite rational and calm. It just amuses me to be unnecessarily sweary when I bang away at the (****ing) keyboard. Being a (ahem) businessman, accountant, prat and investor myself, it just pisses me off that these clowns have so royally ****ed it all up. Where the hell was that one voice in that boardroom going "Stop! All this irrecoverable expenditure, **** appointments and bad signings will lead to this club's ruin?"
We are all apparently rejoicing that Armpit Bhatia-Boy (sorry) is now chairman, but where the hell has he been whilst the brown stuff was continually hitting the air-conditioning unit? Sitting in the corner in a coma?
I'm currently reading a book at the moment about how the conscious and subconscious brain works. There's an interesting chapter about how people in meetings, such as boards, end up doing 'groupthink' and how there needs to be at least one 'asshole' (its written by a Yank) present to say "No! I don't agree!"
What a bunch of useless utter bell-ends.
P.S. If Simon Jordan is interested in buying the club I'll personally carry him to Loftus Road on the end of my knob.
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Nice one Ubes.Contrary to how I'm coming across on this thread, Wubba, I'm feeling quite rational and calm. It just amuses me to be unnecessarily sweary when I bang away at the (****ing) keyboard. Being a (ahem) businessman, accountant, prat and investor myself, it just pisses me off that these clowns have so royally ****ed it all up. Where the hell was that one voice in that boardroom going "Stop! All this irrecoverable expenditure, **** appointments and bad signings will lead to this club's ruin?"
We are all apparently rejoicing that Armpit Bhatia-Boy (sorry) is now chairman, but where the hell has he been whilst the brown stuff was continually hitting the air-conditioning unit? Sitting in the corner in a coma?
I'm currently reading a book at the moment about how the conscious and subconscious brain works. There's an interesting chapter about how people in meetings, such as boards, end up doing 'groupthink' and how there needs to be at least one 'asshole' (its written by a Yank) present to say "No! I don't agree!"
What a bunch of useless utter bell-ends.
P.S. If Simon Jordan is interested in buying the club I'll personally carry him to Loftus Road on the end of my knob.
Nice one Ubes.
Is Jordan a knob jockey then?
Nice one Ubes.
Is Jordan a knob jockey then?
Woah you can’t say that!
Especially to a fudge packer like Uber
****ety-****. - I’m having that. Deal?I'll be honest with you: I've always quite liked Jordan's straight-talking persona. I'd take him over Fernandes any day. Frankly, I'd take Helen Keller over Fernandes.
There's nothing in that piece that isn't true or unfair in my opinion, other than perhaps lumping Briatore and Eccleston into the equation, as they got the club into the PL, made their nice return and (presumably) left it in a then stable financial footing for Fat-**** Tony to come in and wreck.
I'm rapidly moving from labelling Fernandes a 'plucky amateur' to thinking that what the whole ****ing bunch of them have presided over is ****ing criminal. Jordan is right: just look at all the money behind Fernandes, Mittal, Bhatia, Gnamadamadingdong et al, look at their supposed business acumen, their rise to 'captain of industry' mogul status. How the ****ety-**** did they allow this bollocks to descend upon our club?
****s.
I need a drink.
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To be fair, I remember sitting not all that far away from the director's box when we had just thrashed Palace 4-1 and he was at his most orange. As he left and was getting a lot of good humoured banter about his team and his tan he saw the funny side and chatted to quite a few Rs fans. Since then he's had my respect particularly as he took that con-man Dowie for every penny when he tried to walk away on the pretence that his wife was ill or something like that only to join Charlton the following week. Since then I have also found myself agreeing with a lot of what he has said when interviewed. Another fan who paid the price in bucket loads to own his club and deliver them to the promised landI’ve always thought of Mr Jordan as arrogant and self absorbed.
It is sad that I struggle to find any reason to contradict anything he says here though.
It’s a horrible time to be an R’s supporter that’s for sure.
Well said. We often disagree and take opposite points of view but I respect your candour and willingness to admit that he is not he answer to our woes as you had hoped.Agree 100%.
Also, even those of us who hoped he would be an upgrade in coaching always had reservations about whether he was best as a number 2.
Add in the rumours that he doesn't mix with the players and likes to travel separately etc and he's probably lost any respect they may have had for him.
If that's the case it can only end one way and we need to get rid and move on while we still have a chance of staying up.
.............................We are all apparently rejoicing that Armpit Bhatia-Boy (sorry) is now chairman, but where the hell has he been whilst the brown stuff was continually hitting the air-conditioning unit? Sitting in the corner in a coma?...…………………………...
Or maybe they just want to make sure their son in law has something to keep him busy and away from their steel businesses.Here's a possible answer for you. The Mittals have been playing a very long game indeed because they are a bit more savvy that we give them credit for. They have been quite content to let the mayhem unfold while Tony Fernandes blew his pot of money and then persuaded his co-investors to blow theirs. The Mittals knew it would go spectacularly tits up at some stage at which point they buy the shares on the cheap rather than the silly prices which Fernandes probably paid on the basis he was buying a club destined for the Champions League. I know it sounds like cobblers and probably should be on the Conspiracy thread. But tell me why else they have held onto their stake in the club and not done anything to stop the madness. It's a win win. Either TF makes a great job of it and they take their cut of the profits or he ****s up badly and they are there to buy him out for peanuts when he decides to cut his losses after the disaster has unfolded.
ITK? No, I've watched too many soap operas and conspiracy drama series than is good for me
Here's hoping.Here's a possible answer for you. The Mittals have been playing a very long game indeed because they are a bit more savvy that we give them credit for. They have been quite content to let the mayhem unfold while Tony Fernandes blew his pot of money and then persuaded his co-investors to blow theirs. The Mittals knew it would go spectacularly tits up at some stage at which point they buy the shares on the cheap rather than the silly prices which Fernandes probably paid on the basis he was buying a club destined for the Champions League. I know it sounds like cobblers and probably should be on the Conspiracy thread. But tell me why else they have held onto their stake in the club and not done anything to stop the madness. It's a win win. Either TF makes a great job of it and they take their cut of the profits or he ****s up badly and they are there to buy him out for peanuts when he decides to cut his losses after the disaster has unfolded.
ITK? No, I've watched too many soap operas and conspiracy drama series than is good for me