Match Day Thread QPR v Bristol City

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We need a Triumvirate of Great QPR Managers of the past to help Shteve:

  • Alan Mullery
  • Mick Harford
  • Paul Hart

A Trinity of Guff. We would be unstoppable (all the way to League 2)
 
qprbeth said:
Bassong and Wells incoming... really? Would they want to come??
Wells would help....as I keep saying ...life would be a lot easier if we could actually score a goal..

But that is not the fullest answer.... the trust in Steve has already gone. His record for Derby and for us is appalling...

Something drastic must happen.....I think he will last to Sunday

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I wonder if he won the Dutch league because none of the players could understand what he was saying.
 
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Rodney said:
Not picking on you DS but there's too many fans echoing your theme...

It doesn't matter how rich they are, nor how willing they are to spend a "squillion dollars", owners are bound by the current version of Financial Fair Play which limits the amount of losses they can incur. I'd bet my house, wife and kids that our current owners would LOVE to splash the cash but they CAN'T.

Have we not learned our lesson?

What part of a £42 million fine do we not understand?
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How ****ing unfair is FFP though?
All it does is hammer clubs who have the temerity to challenge the big boys when it comes to spending.
We should be able to spunk as much cash as the owners want to risk imo.
We are heading to league 1 and there's **** all we can do about it.
Meanwhile, all the fat cats in the Premier league continue to spend squillions.
God help Wolves if they get relegated!
It's a ****ing joke.
 
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rangercol said:
How ****ing unfair is FFP though?
All it does is hammer clubs who have the temerity to challenge the big boys when it comes to spending.
We should be able to spunk as much cash as the owners want to risk imo.
We are heading to league 1 and there's **** all we can do about it.
Meanwhile, all the fat cats in the Premier league continue to spend squillions.
God help Wolves if they get relegated!
It's a ****ing joke.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
Dreams of QPR getting to the premier league ... the league of madness should be forgotten. It’s crazy to mention it

Always wanted us to define and get our feet back in the championship where we belong and are better suited.

Money is ruining football of course
Fulham spent 100m plus just to compete Wolves the same? Both well may stay up but that has to be sustained

Cardiff look poor but I reckon are just there to collect funds before returning back with us

I believe we have enough to stay up but hopefully not with SM
 
awjm said:
No abuse. But a counter-argument.

Ollie had significantly increased the amount of points we had at end of season compared to previous season. So... more points but same position as the season before... what does that mean? It means he kept us safe and got more points in a harder season than the one before because it took more points to achieve that position again.

Ollie's team came back from a losing position to draw or win on multiple occasions.

Ollie's team often came out better in the second half (good team talks? Adjustments to tactics?)

All this mainly achieved while Ollie tried to play the 5 at back thing. It took him a while but eventually went to 442 and we saw even more improvement (and maybe would have continued improving?)

Although there were plenty of dross or nothing games, there were significantly more exciting games under Ollie than we had seen under any manager since Warnock. We saw some actual backbone. Exciting games were so rare under anyone else in that time.

Just by being there, Ollie and Bircham raised the mood of the club and it felt good to support QPR again. The club felt a little more like our club again.

Those youngsters... look at them under Ollie. Look at them under McClaren.

Don't get me wrong... I got the right hump with Ollie at times. But the above speaks for itself.

Oh, and one last thing... How many times has McClaren won promotion in an English league? How many times has Ollie done it?
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Spend 20% of your time looking back and 80% looking forward my friend. A lot of effort but really won’t help our predicament now.
 
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bobmid said:
I'm not in any way regretting my criticism of Holloway. I'm just getting over those away days!! Granted it's not looking any better and probably worse but as I've said before, Smithies, onohua and Robinson have all left. 3 major players from Holloways season. To be honest I don't think any manager could do much with these players. The back 4 last night looked more like a lower div 1 defence. I was pleasantly surprised by the BFG against Preston but he clearly lacks any pace. The midfield are so overrated by some of our fans. What does Luongo actually do? Scowen is just a harrier, ten a penny in the lower divisions. Freeman is decent but drifts in and out of games. Eze has potential but he's never going to be a superstar commanding fees like Sterling did. Not going to get started on the strikers!!
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A man who talks a lot of sense!
 
rangercol said:
How ****ing unfair is FFP though?
All it does is hammer clubs who have the temerity to challenge the big boys when it comes to spending.
We should be able to spunk as much cash as the owners want to risk imo.
We are heading to league 1 and there's **** all we can do about it.
Meanwhile, all the fat cats in the Premier league continue to spend squillions.
God help Wolves if they get relegated!
It's a ****ing joke.
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Hammer hitting the nail square on the head Col. Well said.
It’s a farcical set of rules (that we car-crashed) and is ruining this club (along with poor decisions by the owners) - and will affect many other clubs to come.
 
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Rodney said:
Not picking on you DS but there's too many fans echoing your theme...

It doesn't matter how rich they are, nor how willing they are to spend a "squillion dollars", owners are bound by the current version of Financial Fair Play which limits the amount of losses they can incur. I'd bet my house, wife and kids that our current owners would LOVE to splash the cash but they CAN'T.

Have we not learned our lesson?

What part of a £42 million fine do we not understand?
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I hear your point, Rodney but my main issue has been, why have we waited till the last micro second to get some better loans in.
We all believed that we were going to be very light on in the forward department.

We had the whole off season to bring in some players in and l don't mean one or maybe two, probably needed three or four to try and find one or two that fitted with us.

I totally understand our predicament but still think the club did a lot less than they could of.

In the case of a new owner, l was alluding to the situation that Villa had found themselves in. They had spent shedloads and didn't go up and were staring down the barrel at FFP .................... then a new buyer came along at the inch perfect time, they then didn't need to sell Grellish nor others. l was just romancing the fact that it would of been nice if we were to mirror that scenario.

All good, mate.
 
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Busy all day but just read most of this and wanted to give my thoughts about last night and out current situation.

We actually started brightly last night and most of the play was at their end for about fifteen, maybe twenty minutes and I was quite enjoying the footie. Until Washington missed. I sit in PU so could not tell whether it was a complete sitter or not but I saw him hit it right at the goalie - a common phenomenon among the less good strikers. Eze would have put his chance away with a bit more experience.

We all agree there were no good performances from any of our players ( although I think Baptiste deserves a nod as one who did his job in a workmanlike fashion and made a couple of important interceptions ) but the thing that bothered me more was that heads almost went down after the first goal and definitely did after the second. Olly's team did not do that as exemplified by coming back from being 2 nil down to Brentford. The second problem was that there was no plan B until the subs and even those were booed by some of our own crowd.

Let's just take a step back from the emotion of the moment and have a think.

There's a sort of balance in our situation. The self-confessed errors of Tony and Co go back over years and, therefore, are going to take years to fix. This might even involve a spell in League 1 where we would be the bigger fish in a smaller pond. Listening to Sean Derry on the radio today made me think he would be a great manager for us in League 1 and maybe even one to consider if SM does not survive. He would tick the box of 'being QPR' and he continues to speak fondly of the club though with sadness at the current situation.

The board tolerated Olly losing six on the spin twice in one season! Obviously we beat Norwich at home in the first game last year to get points on the board but 3 out of 21 is really not that much better than 0 out of 12, or even 0 out of 21, over a 138 point season. I think that means SM is not going anywhere just yet though a pasting by Wigan at home might well change that in the knee-jerk world of football management.

We really do need to wait until 1.9.18 to see what SM (or yet another A.N.Other) has to work with. Well's scoring a few will have us cheered in no time. I hope this rumour is true.

The greatest unknown, and the one with potential for greatest impact for good or indeed bad, is whether The Board has the collective will to see this thing through over what will now be many years before we get a sniff at the PL again. It is possible that for the Malaysians and the Indians, losing (with resultant loss of face) is most undesirable which makes me believe they will remain in it for the long haul. I also think they believe there is profit to be made in a new stadium development at the LCS with resultant development of LR

All my own speculation and conjecture but therapeutic to put thoughts down after the most disappointing start for 31 years. Another unwelcome QPR record!

Sleep tight one and all and remember, we are all Rangers Til We Die!
 
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bobmid said:
I don't think tango and cash were ever truly in it for the long haul. Whatever may be said about them, they got the club to the premier league and sold up. They were ruthless when needed and it served them well. Would be worse off if they had stayed......I honestly don't think anyone has been worse for our club then Tony.
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Partly right. They didn't get us up. They would have taken us down if the Mittals hadn't taken the bull by the horns and stopped Briatore interfering in team management. However fair play to them in clearing our debts and making us a solvent business.
 
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