Iniesta's done one

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I remember calling Jake Livermore a drug cheat on here, loose language deployed at the time. I got (rightly) pulled apart. I think Maradona comes under the same classification. Drug user yes. Drug cheat no. Drugs ****ed yo his later career.
 
Barchullona said:
Well, I am 68 and always say Maradona. Certainly he was the most influential. Jimmy Greaves said he was for the reason Napoli won nothing before him and after. And made the point many people could rattle off the names of most of the 1970 Brazil World Cup winners and even a fair few of the 1958 Brazil team when it came to the more recent Argentinian ones Maradona was in then they would struggle for names other than him. And, he didn't just do it in a different country, he did it on a different continent. Whereas Pele only ever played for one club.
Of course another difference is people are able to see everything a playervdoes now. Years ago they couldn't. There aren't many clips of Matthews or Finney (and Bill Shankly would be making his case. There are few clips of our best like up of Waggy, Chillo, Houghton and Butler. When I lived in Leeds I saw Best oull off a bit of skill which not only drew applause from Leeds fans but some of the Leeds players. But no cameras were there to record it.
When my son played football I used to say to him if you want to see what you dad was like I always told him to look at clips of Best. Wgen he played Rugby Union I told him tomwatchnclips of Barry John to get an udea of what his dad was like. If only...<laugh>
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When I play rugby people tell me that I remind them of Barry John :emoticon-0100-smile …. oh no, sorry - John Barrowman.
 
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Barchullona said:
I watched that final live as an awestruck 10 year old. It was quite an event as in pre satellite days if was the first chance to see a European Cup Final live. In fact whole FA Cup Finals had only been shown for 7 years. It was a rapidly changing world and exciting to witness.
Eintracht were no mugs, they had beaten Rangers 12-1 on aggregate in the semi-final.
Bill Shankly's dad dies at that game. When he recalled it you got the impression that he was thinking " what a way to go...".

As for recollections, that is true. Everyone remembers Butler beating countless men on the wing before crossing for Waggy and Chillo toscore sublime goals in front of a packed swaying crowd singing and chanting at ear-splitting decibel levels. It wasn't quite like that.
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It seemed it was like that to me :emoticon-0106-cryin. You've just broke my heart :emoticon-0106-cryin
 
He's only on £22.5m a year..I think I'll organise a whip round. It sounds as if he's on the bones of his arse,
 
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