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Even though I’ll watch streams (because I’m a hypocrite) and I realise it’s ideal for ex pat fans (but technology being what it is then everyone can get it)...I’m still uneasy about this
I think the quantity of televised football is a big part of the slow death of good atmospheres in stadiums.
When I started following City the only way to see them was to go to the games. And when you did the atmosphere was a big part of the enjoyment. I think part of that was that you had no real idea how teams divisions above played (apart from very occasional TV stuff which again if you missed it...that was it, you’d missed it) so no one was going to City expecting to be ‘entertained’...therefore it was entertaining!
I live a very easy bus away from the Circle, but even paying £5 through a VPN would be about the same cost as just the bus journeys, let alone tickets and beer.

Watching live football on TV is too easy, and when things are easy you don’t value them enough

Yep...I’m a miserable old bastard
Your not a miserable old bastard dennis, you're a traditionalist who appreciates the value of involvement & support of your team.
I feel very much the way you do...and my bus ride to watch City live is far more expensive. I miss that live on-the-spot experience a **** load - despite the most recent experiences being at the KC of it being like a library on a mid-week afternoon.

The over-saturation/exposure of televised football is diluting the experience drastically. Lots of money being made by a few (players particularly, some owners). It's even killing the game at grass root level. How many kids do you see playing football on local parks on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon these days ? They'd rather sit on their arses in front of the bloody TV !

Weekends at my place now consists of 3 or 4 mates dropping round to watch PL games on the 3 screens I have set up in my basement.
Every bloody PL game is broadcast on multiple TV channels. Some may be delayed a couple of hours, but they are all available to watch.
We even listen to City's audio broadcast live at the same time (well, when Viking actually get their act together that is !!).
It's a blessing that I can still get out to manage an old-timers football team mid-day on Sunday to get my fix of real football. I retired from playing about 5 years ago after my first leg fracture, coupled with arthritic hips and shattered ankle ligaments. After a few beers post match, it's back to the basement to catch up on the televised games we recorded whilst out in the fresh air.

I think it's me who's the miserable old sod :emoticon-0106-cryin. The pleasure of watching football, as you say, is being devalued rapidly.
 
Your not a miserable old bastard dennis, you're a traditionalist who appreciates the value of involvement & support of your team.
I feel very much the way you do...and my bus ride to watch City live is far more expensive. I miss that live on-the-spot experience a **** load - despite the most recent experiences being at the KC of it being like a library on a mid-week afternoon.

The over-saturation/exposure of televised football is diluting the experience drastically. Lots of money being made by a few (players particularly, some owners). It's even killing the game at grass root level. How many kids do you see playing football on local parks on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon these days ? They'd rather sit on their arses in front of the bloody TV !

Weekends at my place now consists of 3 or 4 mates dropping round to watch PL games on the 3 screens I have set up in my basement.
Every bloody PL game is broadcast on multiple TV channels. Some may be delayed a couple of hours, but they are all available to watch.
We even listen to City's audio broadcast live at the same time (well, when Viking actually get their act together that is !!).
It's a blessing that I can still get out to manage an old-timers football team mid-day on Sunday to get my fix of real football. I retired from playing about 5 years ago after my first leg fracture, coupled with arthritic hips and shattered ankle ligaments. After a few beers post match, it's back to the basement to catch up on the televised games we recorded whilst out in the fresh air.

I think it's me who's the miserable old sod :emoticon-0106-cryin. The pleasure of watching football, as you say, is being devalued rapidly.

You don't sound miserable. A few beers, or a lot of beers, with mates whilst watching football and keeping up with City games sounds a decent way of spending time in foreign climes.
 
Your not a miserable old bastard dennis, you're a traditionalist who appreciates the value of involvement & support of your team.
I feel very much the way you do...and my bus ride to watch City live is far more expensive. I miss that live on-the-spot experience a **** load - despite the most recent experiences being at the KC of it being like a library on a mid-week afternoon.

The over-saturation/exposure of televised football is diluting the experience drastically. Lots of money being made by a few (players particularly, some owners). It's even killing the game at grass root level. How many kids do you see playing football on local parks on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon these days ? They'd rather sit on their arses in front of the bloody TV !

Weekends at my place now consists of 3 or 4 mates dropping round to watch PL games on the 3 screens I have set up in my basement.
Every bloody PL game is broadcast on multiple TV channels. Some may be delayed a couple of hours, but they are all available to watch.
We even listen to City's audio broadcast live at the same time (well, when Viking actually get their act together that is !!).
It's a blessing that I can still get out to manage an old-timers football team mid-day on Sunday to get my fix of real football. I retired from playing about 5 years ago after my first leg fracture, coupled with arthritic hips and shattered ankle ligaments. After a few beers post match, it's back to the basement to catch up on the televised games we recorded whilst out in the fresh air.

I think it's me who's the miserable old sod :emoticon-0106-cryin. The pleasure of watching football, as you say, is being devalued rapidly.
It’s just possible that we’re both miserable old sods

EDIT- I see a few of the even older, even more miserable, sods have joined in too
 
Even though I’ll watch streams (because I’m a hypocrite) and I realise it’s ideal for ex pat fans (but technology being what it is then everyone can get it)...I’m still uneasy about this
I think the quantity of televised football is a big part of the slow death of good atmospheres in stadiums.
When I started following City the only way to see them was to go to the games. And when you did the atmosphere was a big part of the enjoyment. I think part of that was that you had no real idea how teams divisions above played (apart from very occasional TV stuff which again if you missed it...that was it, you’d missed it) so no one was going to City expecting to be ‘entertained’...therefore it was entertaining!
I live a very easy bus away from the Circle, but even paying £5 through a VPN would be about the same cost as just the bus journeys, let alone tickets and beer.

Watching live football on TV is too easy, and when things are easy you don’t value them enough

Yep...I’m a miserable old bastard

Nothing beats being at a live game, where you feel part of the club. Unfortunately that feeling has been taken away by the Allam's, until such time as they are gone, watching City at home will feel like a soleless experience. Atmosphere at away games is a much better experience than at home.
 
Nothing beats being at a live game, where you feel part of the club. Unfortunately that feeling has been taken away by the Allam's, until such time as they are gone, watching City at home will feel like a soleless experience. Atmosphere at away games is a much better experience than at home.

Some clown on the HDM site claims the atmosphere has disappeared due to CTID and HCST. Yes, I remember the vibrant atmosphere the pro Allam brigade and others created, it was a cauldron with all 4 sides cheering and chanting. The same bloke takes someone else to task for negativity and says with investment from the Allams we could well be celebrating promotion back to tne PL.
If he sees men in white coats coming down the drive he would be well advised to pretend not to be in.
 
Some clown on the HDM site claims the atmosphere has disappeared due to CTID and HCST. Yes, I remember the vibrant atmosphere the pro Allam brigade and others created, it was a cauldron with all 4 sides cheering and chanting. The same bloke takes someone else to task for negativity and says with investment from the Allams we could well be celebrating promotion back to tne PL.
If he sees men in white coats coming down the drive he would be well advised to pretend not to be in.
<laugh> A case of the blind leading the blind
 
I see this as the way I will be watching City next season.
Not sure I can be arsed going.
 
Does anyone know if an I follow account can be used across all the clubs using that platform as per the old EFL website accounts?

I don't think I want to sign up for it and give the Allan's any of my money.
 
Does anyone know if an I follow account can be used across all the clubs using that platform as per the old EFL website accounts?

I don't think I want to sign up for it and give the Allan's any of my money.

You thinking of signing up for another club? <laugh>