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People are talking like Grosicki just had his first good game for us, obviously he's been hit and miss, but he's still got nine goals and four assists so far this season.

Yes. He has had 9 games in which he has contributed to goals. 25 in which he hasn't.

I'm not knocking him, I just think it'll take a good price to get him from us and I don't think he's done enough, often enough for anybody to give a good price.
 
Yes. He has had 9 games in which he has contributed to goals. 25 in which he hasn't.

I'm not knocking him, I just think it'll take a good price to get him from us and I don't think he's done enough, often enough for anybody to give a good price.

He'll go because the owners want to cash in, not because we don't want him.
 
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I always wanted Gosicki to succeed and live up to his Polish Messi nickname. Sadly he only seems interested while playing for a move.
I wonder what chance there is of him being here next season? I bet its less than no.

Presumably he wanted out last summer, but no one wanted him. It's like Hernandez wanting out every window for the past few years. Unless someone is actually prepared to sign them on the no-doubt hefty wages they expect, they don't leave.
 
I always wanted Gosicki to succeed and live up to his Polish Messi nickname. Sadly he only seems interested while playing for a move.
I wonder what chance there is of him being here next season? I bet its less than no.

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Presumably he wanted out last summer, but no one wanted him. It's like Hernandez wanting out every window for the past few years. Unless someone is actually prepared to sign them on the no-doubt hefty wages they expect, they don't leave.

I'm surprised Hernandez is still here to see the end of his contract to be honest.

Perhaps he'd probably have left in the summer if not for ****ing himself in the arse, but no pre contract signed abroad. Points to a desire to stay in England, think he'll be after another crack at the premier league.
 
I'm worried our now fantastic attacking options are going to be wholesale sold/recalled

Wilson
Hernandez
Grosicki
Bowen

Which if any of these might be here next season?
 
I'm worried our now fantastic attacking options are going to be wholesale sold/recalled

Wilson
Hernandez
Grosicki
Bowen

Which if any of these might be here next season?

Errr...non most likely due to the marvellous reducing effect on our wage bill (Abel), getting some money for them with a straight flow through to Allamhouse (Grosicki (wage saved as well) and Bowen (avoid large new contract as well)) and no ****ing chance (Wilson).
 
Errr...non most likely due to the marvellous reducing effect on our wage bill (Abel), getting some money for them with a straight flow through to Allamhouse (Grosicki (wage saved as well) and Bowen (avoid large new contract as well)) and no ****ing chance (Wilson).

Mason and a smaller contract with Moses if we keep him will also reduce the wage bill a lot surely.
 
As it stands our team next season would be:

Marshall
? Mazuch MacDonald Kingsley
Stewart Henriksen
Bowen Irvine/Toral Grosicki
Campbell/Dicko/Keane

So we'd have options up front and in the middle. No right back.

Is Weir still under contract next year? Evandro? I won't count him as an option though because he'll be injured.
 
As things stand currently, these will be our contracted players next season...

2019 - Campbell, Fraizer (Plus 1 year option)
2019 - Evandro
2019 - Henriksen, Markus
2019 - Keane, Will
2019 - Marshall, David
2019 - Mazuch, Ondrej
2019 - Weir, James

2020 - Bowen, Jarrod (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Dicko, Nouha (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Grosicki, Kamil
2020 - Irvine, Jackson (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Kingsley, Stephen (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - MacDonald, Angus (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Stewart, Kevin
2020 - Toral, Jon (Plus 1 year option)

15 players and at least one of them will be sold, possibly two.
 
As things stand currently, these will be our contracted players next season...

2019 - Campbell, Fraizer (Plus 1 year option)
2019 - Evandro
2019 - Henriksen, Markus
2019 - Keane, Will
2019 - Marshall, David
2019 - Mazuch, Ondrej
2019 - Weir, James

2020 - Bowen, Jarrod (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Dicko, Nouha (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Grosicki, Kamil
2020 - Irvine, Jackson (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Kingsley, Stephen (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - MacDonald, Angus (Plus 1 year option)
2020 - Stewart, Kevin
2020 - Toral, Jon (Plus 1 year option)

15 players and at least one of them will be sold, possibly two.
If all those stayed, and Larsson, Clark and Odubajo (assuming recovery) all got new contracts, it's not a terrible starting point. With Henriksen proving a lot of doubters (including myself) wrong, could Stewart do the same?
 
If all those stayed, and Larsson, Clark and Odubajo (assuming recovery) all got new contracts, it's not a terrible starting point. With Henriksen proving a lot of doubters (including myself) wrong, could Stewart do the same?

"Could Stewart do the same". Bloody hell he will have to improve by some margin to do so.
 
People are talking like Grosicki just had his first good game for us, obviously he's been hit and miss, but he's still got nine goals and four assists so far this season.
It's frustrating because he is too good for the division when he wants to be , he should be up there amongst the top goal scorers and top assists in the league
 
What's frustrating is how people give players a pass for most of the season. They cost the most money. I saw a quote from Brian Clough recently when he said football isn't about tactics it's about players. People will talk all kinds of stuff about tactics like that's what's clever but without players bothering with whatever role they are given it really doesn't matter. And motivation is apparently all the manager's responsibility as if these overpaid players don't have to have any motivation themselves.
 
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Actually, our account t with Liverpool should be very much in the black.... We took Marcovich and made him a saleable proposition again. We sold Robbo for peanuts and took Stewart for Brazil nuts.... We took Harry Wilson on loan and probably saved them spending £15 million on someone who brings to the table what he does. So, who next. Ryan Kent... on loan at Bristol City...?