Video ref to be trialed...

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Another “speedy” response, pissed up lines & controversy.

“There were 45 minutes on the clock at the John Smith's Stadium when Mata collected Ashley Young's low cross, rounded Jonas Lossl and slid the ball into Huddersfield's empty net. United's celebrations were long over by the time referee Kevin Friend finally signalled for VAR, and it was only after another lengthy delay that the goal was chalked off.

Replays eventually proved the decision was correct, but whether it was the kind of "clear and obvious mistake" for which VAR was intended is another question. Instead of settling debate, the use of VAR once again created more. The image of wobbly lines super-imposed on the pitch only added to the sense of confusion.”

What a crock of **** it is.

 

[Barchullona]

Another “speedy” response, pissed up lines & controversy.

“There were 45 minutes on the clock at the John Smith's Stadium when Mata collected Ashley Young's low cross, rounded Jonas Lossl and slid the ball into Huddersfield's empty net. United's celebrations were long over by the time referee Kevin Friend finally signalled for VAR, and it was only after another lengthy delay that the goal was chalked off.

Replays eventually proved the decision was correct, but whether it was the kind of "clear and obvious mistake" for which VAR was intended is another question. Instead of settling debate, the use of VAR once again created more. The image of wobbly lines super-imposed on the pitch only added to the sense of confusion.”

What a crock of **** it is.

Man Utd fans on the pitch. Why wasn't it abandoned? Will they have to play behind closed doors?

 

[Ernie Shackleton]

Another “speedy” response, pissed up lines & controversy.

“There were 45 minutes on the clock at the John Smith's Stadium when Mata collected Ashley Young's low cross, rounded Jonas Lossl and slid the ball into Huddersfield's empty net. United's celebrations were long over by the time referee Kevin Friend finally signalled for VAR, and it was only after another lengthy delay that the goal was chalked off.

Replays eventually proved the decision was correct, but whether it was the kind of "clear and obvious mistake" for which VAR was intended is another question. Instead of settling debate, the use of VAR once again created more. The image of wobbly lines super-imposed on the pitch only added to the sense of confusion.”

What a crock of **** it is.

Bollocks, his kneecap was clearly offside.











That's 'clearly' in the sense of can only be seen after ten minutes of analysis and much use of photo finish style technology by a bloke 200 miles away, obvs.

 

[dennisboothstash]

Another “speedy” response, pissed up lines & controversy.

“There were 45 minutes on the clock at the John Smith's Stadium when Mata collected Ashley Young's low cross, rounded Jonas Lossl and slid the ball into Huddersfield's empty net. United's celebrations were long over by the time referee Kevin Friend finally signalled for VAR, and it was only after another lengthy delay that the goal was chalked off.

Replays eventually proved the decision was correct, but whether it was the kind of "clear and obvious mistake" for which VAR was intended is another question. Instead of settling debate, the use of VAR once again created more. The image of wobbly lines super-imposed on the pitch only added to the sense of confusion.”

What a crock of **** it is.

Come the revolution Brother....

 

[dennisboothstash]

Interesting quote from the Winter Olympic coverage

BBC are still banging on about the curling. Electronic stones, and still people aren’t sure about the decision; could it possibly be that infallible officiating is irrelevant to enjoyment of sport?

 

[MingofHarlem]

Bollocks, his kneecap was clearly offside.






That's 'clearly' in the sense of can only be seen after ten minutes of analysis and much use of photo finish style technology by a bloke 200 miles away, obvs.

Perhaps it would have been better to run VAR in the background over a season or two addressing the kinks we are now seeing.

Yes, they would not have been able to work on the referee - VAR interaction but by understanding when, and when not, to use VAR and making sure the camera angles, visuals and process were accurate, and consistent, they could have avoided some of the criticism being currently levelled at them by fans, managers, players and pundits.

MoH

 

[Tentotwo]

As soon as you invent something that irradicates the doubt it becomes sterile. By allowing the human factor to continue you re create that doubt. EUFA /FIFA don't want their billion pound baby 'ruined' by doubt or controversy,that's why Qatar got the World Cup.

 

[DJBlackandamberarmy(No4)]

I watched it in the early hours so may have imagined it, but why was the lines on the screen wonky? Or do I need a new TV?

 

[Mr Hatem]

I watched it in the early hours so may have imagined it, but why was the lines on the screen wonky? Or do I need a new TV?

A new TV or less booze/drugs.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I watched it in the early hours so may have imagined it, but why was the lines on the screen wonky? Or do I need a new TV?

You didn't imagine it, there was much piss-taking on Twitter over the wonky lines.

 

[PLT]

The image they showed with 'straight' lines after the event still wasn't right. They may have been straight but were clearly not parallel with the penalty box. But my biggest issue with all of this is how decisions such a that Mata offside get labelled 'correct' when their bodies were obviously in line with each other and it comes down to which limbs you focus on; they both had arms and legs extending towards the goal which could have made either one closer. But in reality this isn't horseracing so let's just say they were ****ing level. Does it really give an advantage if someone's nose hair is protruding past the last defender ffs. The offside rule has got way out of hand for something that was clearly only invented to stop 'goal-scrounging'.

 

[originallambrettaman]

The company that provided the bizarre VAR images during Manchester United's 2-0 victory over Huddersfield on Saturday has apologised for the offside controversy....

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/hawkeye...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

[balkan tiger]

The company that provided the bizarre VAR images during Manchester United's 2-0 victory over Huddersfield on Saturday has apologised for the offside controversy....

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/hawkeye...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Why don't they use the TV replays? they use a virtual image a bit like the goal line technology and hawkeye in tennis seems daft to me when they already have video from every angle for the telly why do they have to make something up.

Do tennis players really play with egg shaped balls?

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[Barchullona]

Why don't they use the TV replays? they use a virtual image a bit like the goal line technology and hawkeye in tennis seems daft to me when they already have video from every angle for the telly why do they have to make something up.

Do tennis players really play with egg shaped balls?

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Only some of them

 

[Plum]

The company that provided the bizarre VAR images during Manchester United's 2-0 victory over Huddersfield on Saturday has apologised for the offside controversy....

https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/hawkeye...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Very convenient story that...

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

Another “speedy” response, pissed up lines & controversy.

“There were 45 minutes on the clock at the John Smith's Stadium when Mata collected Ashley Young's low cross, rounded Jonas Lossl and slid the ball into Huddersfield's empty net. United's celebrations were long over by the time referee Kevin Friend finally signalled for VAR, and it was only after another lengthy delay that the goal was chalked off.

Replays eventually proved the decision was correct, but whether it was the kind of "clear and obvious mistake" for which VAR was intended is another question. Instead of settling debate, the use of VAR once again created more. The image of wobbly lines super-imposed on the pitch only added to the sense of confusion.”

What a crock of **** it is.

How long was there last night between Delph fouling the Wigan player and them taking the free kick?

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

The image they showed with 'straight' lines after the event still wasn't right. They may have been straight but were clearly not parallel with the penalty box. But my biggest issue with all of this is how decisions such a that Mata offside get labelled 'correct' when their bodies were obviously in line with each other and it comes down to which limbs you focus on; they both had arms and legs extending towards the goal which could have made either one closer. But in reality this isn't horseracing so let's just say they were ****ing level. Does it really give an advantage if someone's nose hair is protruding past the last defender ffs. The offside rule has got way out of hand for something that was clearly only invented to stop 'goal-scrounging'.

The rule is pretty clear, any part of the body that can legally be play the ball makes you offside, his knee was in front so it's offside. You have to draw the line somewhere or the rule becomes pointless.

 

[HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)]

As soon as you invent something that irradicates the doubt it becomes sterile. By allowing the human factor to continue you re create that doubt. EUFA /FIFA don't want their billion pound baby 'ruined' by doubt or controversy,that's why Qatar got the World Cup.

You can never eradicate doubt, too many rules in football are subjective and open to interpretation, even with the VAR there will be controversy. However if it can help to remove the obvious injustices then it can only be a good thing.

 

[PLT]

The rule is pretty clear, any part of the body that can legally be play the ball makes you offside, his knee was in front so it's offside. You have to draw the line somewhere or the rule becomes pointless.

It wasn't clear to the human eye that his knee was offside, not least because the lines used on the image weren't parallel with the penalty area. I'm not talking about the infamous wonky ones, but the ones they later provided to demonstrate that they were straight. If you take away those misleading lines it's just two blokes stood in line. And if the two can't be separate by the human eye it can't really be an advantage or a worthwhile thing for people to be worrying about. It's ridiculous that players and fans are celebrating goals and then having them chalked off minutes later because of these absurd technicalities.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

How long was there last night between Delph fouling the Wigan player and them taking the free kick?

I didn’t watch. How long? Is it related to the “telly refs”