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Video ref to be trialed...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    Of course it's related, you can't complain about the VAR taking too long if it's only taking as long as a normal refereeing decision.

    At least the VAR takes player influence out of the equation, they can't berate the referee to make him change his mind.
     
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  2. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Talking of rules was it a “clear & obvious error” by the referee or linesman?
     
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    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t see it, as I already said but I can complain about VAR as often as I like, for whatever reason I like. It’s wrong & it will never be right, fair or good for the game, as a spectator sport, in any circumstances.
     
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    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    That's straight out of the Allam's book of responses <laugh>

    No one tells you what to do with VAR, just look at your CV.
     
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    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Explain how it will be fair, how it will be good for the game & how it will improve the game as a spectator sport.
     
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  6. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    Explain how it's not fair, how it's bad for the game and why it ruins it as a spectator sport.
     
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    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Without much thought, but all irrefutable:-
    It prioritises decisions.
    It isn’t universal
    It’s exclusive
    It isn’t consistent.
    It takes too long.

    Considering the above you can only conclude that it’s bad for the game & spoils it as a spectator sport. In fact VAR is for the benefit of big money TV corporations. A tool to be used by their pundits that works hand in hand with their own technology solely impress, entertain & take money from the billions of armchair fans.
     
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    For sure.

    Goes without saying though that VAR right now is way too slow and is making itself look amateurish never mind playing right into the hands of those who believe it was never needed in the first place.
     
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  9. Quill

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    Anyone else seeing the continuing adventures of VAR on Spurs vs Rochdale?


    Can anyone explain why Spurs' first goal was disallowed? Answers on a postcard please.
     
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    According to Five Live, Lorente pulled someone's shirt - haven't seen it on tv though
     
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    He quite clearly does, by the letter of the law it's correct but it's extremely harsh.
     
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  12. Quill

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    It was 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Never a foul as the defender also has a handful of shirt.





    At this point I think the FA have specifically told referees to incorrectly use VAR so they never have to hear about it again. It honestly makes the most sense.
     
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    A quite obvious shirt pull.
     
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    Blatant concurrent arm holding and shirt grabbing by both players.
    Defender ended up on the floor, forward (Llorente pulled him down) gained unfair advantage. Goal disallowed. VAR decision appropriate i.m.o. (benefit of doubt in favour of grounded defender).
    Tough call for the officials mind.
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

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    They’re generally getting the decisions right, but it’s taking far too long, they either need to change the way it’s implemented, or sack it off.
     
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    Personally I think the delay is fine as long as the fans / players / staff know what’s happening and can see it. At cricket the tension building as they reach the decision adds to the experience. Doesn’t every PL ground have a screen to keep everyone informed?
     
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    oo I know the answer

    b)
     
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    There were screens at Wembley last night, but the caption on the screen just indicated a VAR referral had been made, with no indication of why.
     
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    Precisely.
     
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  20. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    When they decided how to trial the system they decided not to show the crowds replays for whatever reason, it doesn't matter if there's a screen available or not, that's how they wanted to test it.

    I imagine once they review the process they will use decide to use the screens.
     
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