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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    A good summary, albeit with an understandably remain slant, Stan. In addition, I think you need to look at the direction in which the EU is moving - that is, towards a federal block. Had we remained in the club and not joined the Euro, we would have found increasingly we were members on the outside of the Eurozone members that had become a club within a club and controlled the way the EU was run. This, despite the fact that we were the 2nd largest financial contributors. We would have been faced with the decision either to join the Euro to regain influence or be a rather toothless, negative force to the irritation of the remaining 27 member states.

    I believe that our relationship with Europe will be improved when we have our independence and the EU is free (subject to a growing recalcitrance in some parts of the Continent) to go its own way.
     
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  2. ELLERS

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    Agree he has always been a slimy weasel. May was too weak to sack him. I think that spelt his name wrong as well it should be @unt.
     
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    This guy got it right though.....on national radio <laugh>

     
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  4. Lawrence Jacoby

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    Macron 5 May 0
     
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  5. ELLERS

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    he is already starting to P people in France. He is trying to break up the unions! He won't last long.
    However I can see you think it's 5-0 <laugh> Would you trust May and Boris? All talk mate, they won't agree to anything. he won't be around long either.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/04/emmanuel-macron-appeal-worn-thin-poll-ratings
    he spends too much money on cosmetics.

    When you think of it Merkel is weak and won't last. Macron won't get 2 terms. May although weak has managed to survive...You never know she might hold all the cards soon.
     
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  6. Lawrence Jacoby

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    So do I Tweed by Lethric
     
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  7. Lawrence Jacoby

    Lawrence Jacoby Well-Known Member

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    They hate him to be fair
    But he looks a lot stronger than our lot
     
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    <laugh>
     
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  9. GoldhawkRoad

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    Macron only looks strong because May and Merkel are in weaker positions.

    Weird that Macron's wife/ ex-teacher was 39 when he was just 14. At least we know Mac won't go after Theresa - she's too young for him
     
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    Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I found it really interesting. When capitalism works.

    In 2012 90% of the beer production in the US was controlled by 2 companies - Anheuser -Busch and MillerCoors. Some surprising stuff amongst their brews - including Pilsner Urquell and Boddingtons. Employment in the industry had been falling, and stood at around 27,000.

    Since then beer prices have gone up by 50% and beer consumption has gone down.

    BUT - now 70,000 people are employed in brewing in the US and the number of breweries has gone up by 600%; the duopoly has been smashed (and other big brewers like Diageo - Guinness- and Heineken are losing market share too). All because of the boom in small craft breweries. ****ing great. Similar stuff happening in wine and spirits. Discerning drinkers driving the business - either a small number of them drinking an enormous amount, or lots enjoying a lot of sampling. Great stuff. I think we are seeing the same thing to a certain extent over here, and definitely with gin.

    Shame I find a lot of the beers tasty but just too strong for a good night out.

    Anyway, to get back to politics apparently Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn want to nationalise brewing, and reduce choice to Double Diamond, Watneys Red Barrel and an unbranded lager type beverage.*



    *possibly.
     
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  11. durbar2003

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    My local sports bar only sells craft beers now and they're all crap. Have to go further afield now.
     
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    Too many Brewdog ****s out there. Just give me my watered down Stella and some heavily cut drugs and **** off.
     
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  13. ELLERS

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    <yikes>
     
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    After Boris's idea for a bridge across the Channel was shot down by UK Shipping, who pointed out that 'building a huge concrete structure in the middle of the world’s busiest shipping lane might come with some challenges', he's come up with another idea for an alternative crossing....

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    Many bridge designs can cater for large boats going under then. Seen it in Hong Kong.
    My problem with a bridge is that when Russia invades Europe the French will surrender too quickly and they may hold the bridge to the UK? <doh>
     
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  16. ELLERS

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    Actually now you come to mention it, bridges is a bit of a hobby of mine so please show your favorite images.
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    I would love to drive over the Eshima Ohashi Bridge in Japan
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    Let’s start an architecture and engineering thread. I’ll set it up.
     
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    And aircraft carriers.
     
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