Off Topic The Politics Thread

  • Please bear with us on the new site integration and fixing any known bugs over the coming days. If you can not log in please try resetting your password and check your spam box. If you have tried these steps and are still struggling email [email protected] with your username/registered email address
  • Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
If just over half of them voted that still makes up 300,000 votes, and, bearing in mind that Momentum only has around 30,000 members this doesn't add up to a takeover bid.
Oh it’s all fine then. The fact that Momentum have taken over constituency party representation on the NEC can be safely ignored because somehow it wasn’t intentional, just some kind of coincidence that out of 9 candidates the 3 Momentum one’s got elected. Phew, that’s a relief.
 
And so it begins.

Elections to Labour’s National Executive Committee, the ‘supreme policy making body’ have taken place. Numbers of representatives of party membership have been increased to sit alongside MPs, Trade unionists, sundry other hangers on and Comrade Corbyn. Of the nearly 600,000 committed and passionate Labour Party members, just over half could be bothered to vote.

All three candidates elected are members of Momentum, including its charming founder Jon Lansman, who is ‘delighted to be at last representing members in a 21st century socialist party’.

Actually Jon what you have just achieved is a textbook example of 20th century intra political party manoeuvring, as road tested by Lenin and attempted by the Militant Tendency. Bully, intimidate and bore ordinary party members from being involved in local party affairs, get your vote out to capitalise on the resultant apathy and fear, take over. Step one complete, I’m guessing that between Corbyn, these people and some of the Trade Unionists the NEC will do what Momentum wants. Step two, wholesale deselection of MPs who aren’t with the programme and might think for themselves.

****ing hell this is so old fashioned, just like their ideology.

Meanwhile Corbyn still hasn’t deigned to tell us what he thinks of his pals in Iran who killed a few people protesting in the hope of a better life. His pals on the NEC will back him up in defying the majority of the membership who want to stay in the Single Market, and decline to support a second referendum - Momentum was the group which manipulated its members into preventing a proper debate on Brexit at the last party conference, and reluctantly allowed its members to campaign for remain less than a month before the referendum was held.



Momentum is a sinister organisation. Still, the under 25s will fall for it all.
 
instead of trying to recruit kenyans poles and romanians why not try recruiting from the uk

Jersey Royal potato crop could be hit by shortage of EU workers
Farmers say they are struggling to recruit staff, meaning fewer seed potatoes are being planted
Steven Morris

@stevenmorris20

Mon 15 Jan 2018
You must log in or register to see images

Workers harvest Jersey Royal potatoes. Photograph: Alamy Stock Photo
This year’s harvest of one of the British Isles’ best loved crops – the Jersey Royal new potato – could be hit by a shortage of migrant workers because of Brexit, farmers have warned.
Around 1,000 foreign workers are needed to plant and harvest the potatoes and other crops on Jersey but farmers have reported that they are struggling to recruit staff.
The outdoor growing season traditionally gets under way this month but the shortage of Polish workers in particular has led to fewer seed potatoes being planted.
Particularly mild conditions in the Channel Islands have also led to daffodils blooming early, leading to some being lost because there have not been enough workers to pick them.
Peter Le Maistre, the president of the Jersey Farmers’ Union, said there was concern on the island that Brexit would affect this year’s harvest.
He said that since the turn of the century, many of the 1,000 positions had been filled by Polish workers.
“But after Brexit there was uncertainty and, more importantly, a drop in the value of the pound against the euro and the Polish zloty, which made working in the UK and the Channel Islands not so attractive to Polish people,” said Le Maistre.
“The economy in Poland has also picked up and people are finding jobs back home. We found it harder to recruit staff last year and this year we’re finding it even more difficult.”
Some farmers have begun to explore hiring staff from outside the EU, including Kenya. The farmers’ union has been working with a recruitment agency to bring in staff from Romania, with the first due to arrive next week. “We hope in the short term that might be the answer to our labour requirements,” said Le Maistre.
Producing early potatoes on much of Jersey is very labour intensive as they are planted on slopes known as côtils. They have to be hand-lifted because of the steepness of the inclines and mechanical harvesters used only for the later, flatter fields.
Charlie Gallichan, of Woodside Farms, which grows and exports Jersey Royals, vegetables and flowers, expressed concern at the situation.
He said: “We are trying to harvest vegetables and flowers and have also starting planting potatoes, but we will be losing crops before long if we don’t get more staff. We have already lost some daffodils and we are just trying to keep our heads above the water until we get reinforcements.”
Gallichan, whose family have farmed on Jersey for five generations, added: “It’s an industry problem; it’s not just Jersey. As an island we’ve got to decide if we want to look at employing people from outside the EU and how that would work.”
Jersey Royals have been grown on the island for 140 years. There are approximately 20 island farmers who grow Jersey Royals on about 3,000 hectares (7,400 acres).
 
Last edited:
instead of trying to recruit kenyans poles and romanians why not try recruiting from the uk

Jersey Royal potato crop could be hit by shortage of EU workers
Farmers say they are struggling to recruit staff, meaning fewer seed potatoes are being planted
Steven Morris

@stevenmorris20

Mon 15 Jan 2018
You must log in or register to see images

Workers harvest Jersey Royal potatoes. Photograph: Alamy Stock Photo
This year’s harvest of one of the British Isles’ best loved crops – the Jersey Royal new potato – could be hit by a shortage of migrant workers because of Brexit, farmers have warned.
Around 1,000 foreign workers are needed to plant and harvest the potatoes and other crops on Jersey but farmers have reported that they are struggling to recruit staff.
The outdoor growing season traditionally gets under way this month but the shortage of Polish workers in particular has led to fewer seed potatoes being planted.
Particularly mild conditions in the Channel Islands have also led to daffodils blooming early, leading to some being lost because there have not been enough workers to pick them.
Peter Le Maistre, the president of the Jersey Farmers’ Union, said there was concern on the island that Brexit would affect this year’s harvest.
He said that since the turn of the century, many of the 1,000 positions had been filled by Polish workers.
“But after Brexit there was uncertainty and, more importantly, a drop in the value of the pound against the euro and the Polish zloty, which made working in the UK and the Channel Islands not so attractive to Polish people,” said Le Maistre.
“The economy in Poland has also picked up and people are finding jobs back home. We found it harder to recruit staff last year and this year we’re finding it even more difficult.”
Some farmers have begun to explore hiring staff from outside the EU, including Kenya. The farmers’ union has been working with a recruitment agency to bring in staff from Romania, with the first due to arrive next week. “We hope in the short term that might be the answer to our labour requirements,” said Le Maistre.
Producing early potatoes on much of Jersey is very labour intensive as they are planted on slopes known as côtils. They have to be hand-lifted because of the steepness of the inclines and mechanical harvesters used only for the later, flatter fields.
Charlie Gallichan, of Woodside Farms, which grows and exports Jersey Royals, vegetables and flowers, expressed concern at the situation.
He said: “We are trying to harvest vegetables and flowers and have also starting planting potatoes, but we will be losing crops before long if we don’t get more staff. We have already lost some daffodils and we are just trying to keep our heads above the water until we get reinforcements.”
Gallichan, whose family have farmed on Jersey for five generations, added: “It’s an industry problem; it’s not just Jersey. As an island we’ve got to decide if we want to look at employing people from outside the EU and how that would work.”
Jersey Royals have been grown on the island for 140 years. There are approximately 20 island farmers who grow Jersey Royals on about 3,000 hectares (7,400 acres).
The stupid jersey crappoids are not part of the United Kingdom so why would Brexit effect them
 
I see Donald Tusk is so worried about us leaving that he needs to say we are welcome to stay.
Well Donald we don't want to stay in your undemocratic, non-changing failing organization. Try your best to spread fear about leaving but no one is listening to you. We are leaving so get over it. Muppet
 
I see Donald Tusk is so worried about us leaving that he needs to say we are welcome to stay.
Well Donald we don't want to stay in your undemocratic, non-changing failing organization. Try your best to spread fear about leaving but no one is listening to you. We are leaving so get over it. Muppet

I don’t think he posts on here, mate.
 
I see Donald Tusk is so worried about us leaving that he needs to say we are welcome to stay.
Well Donald we don't want to stay in your undemocratic, non-changing failing organization. Try your best to spread fear about leaving but no one is listening to you. We are leaving so get over it. Muppet

Well there is the 48% of course
 
  • Like
Reactions: QPR Oslo