Transfer Rumours City transfers - Summer 2017

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Not sure how people on here can truly judge the football Swansea are playing after two games, or how good/poor they are.

But would it be a big surprise for Swansea to finish above the likes of Brighton, Hudds, AFC B or Burnley?

No, I don’t think it would.

For some reason, I’ve had their manager pegged as a bit of a bell-end but other than that, I’m reasonably neutral towards them.

Good luck to the Clucas.
 
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Interesting?? Is it his face doesn't fit

Arsenal appear ready to ship off Jon Toral to Hull City, which will make him one of the biggest questions that will probably never have an answer.
When Arsenal plucked Hector Bellerin from the depths of the Barcelona youth system, they got another player too. That player was Jon Toral and he was a creative midfielder who was big enough to play in deeper positions. Like Santi Cazorla, but without the shortness.
Toral made several appearances for Arsenal in the preseason but was never selected to the first team. So the only thing we ever had to judge him off of was his loans.


Which couldn’t have been much better. He started under Mark Warburton at Brentford, where he pumped out six goals in thirty appearances. If that wasn’t promising enough, he went on the next year to take home player of the year honors with Birmingham City, dazzling crowds with his play-making ability.

That is where it all should have started.



He had proven he could play in the English game and Arsenal were starting to struggle with the health of Cazorla. They needed an heir to the Spaniard’s throne, and who better than another Spaniard who had proven himself on two separate occasions in two separate set-ups?
But Arsene Wenger disagreed and sent him off to Granada, where he was buried on the bottom-feeding La Liga side and wasted away until he was called up yet again by Mark Warburton, this time at Rangers. And while this loan wasn’t nearly as productive as previous ones, he still made his impact and came home a better player because of it.Through it all, Toral held to his narrative of wanting to be an Arsenal player.

Now, SkySports is telling us that the 22 year old is off to join Hull City. And I’m sitting here, shaking my head, as I think about all the opportunities he never had. Not to mention the fact that as it stands, Arsenal’s midfield is pretty thin.

At the base of the midfield, they have massive openings for substitutes and in the attack, there is always room for impact subs that can do more thanTheo Walcott.

We will never know what Toral could have been because for whatever reason, Wenger never saw fit to give him even the smallest inkling of a chance. Even in his preseason appearances, he looked solid enough to be handed at least a single opportunity.
But apparently not. And Wenger will probably never elaborate on why he just didn’t like Toral.
 
Shame about Clucas, one of our brightest young players for a while and seemed have been here barely 5 minutes.

It's hard to relate to players when they aren't with a club for very long, but that's how football tends to be in modern times.

Not got a clue :bandit:

lol, well imagine he was injured, Ehab would just look at it as an opportunity to get him a bit cheaper.
 
Interesting?? Is it his face doesn't fit

Arsenal appear ready to ship off Jon Toral to Hull City, which will make him one of the biggest questions that will probably never have an answer.
When Arsenal plucked Hector Bellerin from the depths of the Barcelona youth system, they got another player too. That player was Jon Toral and he was a creative midfielder who was big enough to play in deeper positions. Like Santi Cazorla, but without the shortness.
Toral made several appearances for Arsenal in the preseason but was never selected to the first team. So the only thing we ever had to judge him off of was his loans.


Which couldn’t have been much better. He started under Mark Warburton at Brentford, where he pumped out six goals in thirty appearances. If that wasn’t promising enough, he went on the next year to take home player of the year honors with Birmingham City, dazzling crowds with his play-making ability.

That is where it all should have started.



He had proven he could play in the English game and Arsenal were starting to struggle with the health of Cazorla. They needed an heir to the Spaniard’s throne, and who better than another Spaniard who had proven himself on two separate occasions in two separate set-ups?
But Arsene Wenger disagreed and sent him off to Granada, where he was buried on the bottom-feeding La Liga side and wasted away until he was called up yet again by Mark Warburton, this time at Rangers. And while this loan wasn’t nearly as productive as previous ones, he still made his impact and came home a better player because of it.Through it all, Toral held to his narrative of wanting to be an Arsenal player.

Now, SkySports is telling us that the 22 year old is off to join Hull City. And I’m sitting here, shaking my head, as I think about all the opportunities he never had. Not to mention the fact that as it stands, Arsenal’s midfield is pretty thin.

At the base of the midfield, they have massive openings for substitutes and in the attack, there is always room for impact subs that can do more thanTheo Walcott.

We will never know what Toral could have been because for whatever reason, Wenger never saw fit to give him even the smallest inkling of a chance. Even in his preseason appearances, he looked solid enough to be handed at least a single opportunity.
But apparently not. And Wenger will probably never elaborate on why he just didn’t like Toral.
 
They did used to play wonderful football a few seasons ago...... but not now!!!

I think what happens is that so-called little to no hope clubs surprise themselves and others by finding a manager who gets them playing without fear and respect. They do well and garner praise and then they look to defend their position, play uninspired football and become what everyone thought they would be. I'm not sure it's always just the manager's influence being changed - we saw a glimse of it with Phil Brown, he embodied both styles.
 
I think what happens is that so-called little to no hope clubs surprise themselves and others by finding a manager who gets them playing without fear and respect. They do well and garner praise and then they look to defend their position, play uninspired football and become what everyone thought they would be. I'm not sure it's always just the manager's influence being changed - we saw a glimse of it with Phil Brown, he embodied both styles.

Yup. Under Brown we started playing an attacking 433 taking teams by surprise then kind of surprised ourselves. Brownie then changed the formation and we hung on by the skin of our teeth. Great first 3 months all the same,
 
Watching Cheltenham vs West Ham, the kid up front, Eisa, looks like a gem of a find. The LB Cranston also looks a prospect. WHU 2-0 just before half time.