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[bashdabish]

Sounds good, Would need someone to fit plugs to each end. Surely I could get same lead with plugs?
Edit..
Just noticed the third product on the list with plugs! Still not sure why I would go into the room adjoining the conservatory rather than straight into conservatory??? We live in there 9 months of the year, when it gets really cold and we move to the front room (next to the router), we can revert to what we are using now. These are the only rooms we really use it.
Before I start drilling into walls, I cant achieve similar with any plug in devices (adapters)?
Also presumably I'd get 55 Ghz as I get that now when next to the router... is that workable?
Also would I lose anything extending the powerline?

Sorry mate, didn't mean to confuse you. What I have suggested are two very different solutions. For ease option 1 all the way, just not if you are a keen online gamer in the conservatory.

1. Wireless powerlines - These come in a set of two. You plug one into the power socket near your router and the other in your conservatory IF it's on the same ring mains. If not, then plug in as close to your conservatory as you can get assuming the adjoining room is on the same ring mains. This would run internet around your ring mains and provide a strong wireless signal in the area around your conservatory. I originally thought you had said the conservatory was not on the same ring mains but I may have confused you with another post.

2. External run of Cat5 - needs to be right, wouldn't recommend getting cable with ends already made as it means a bigger hole to drill to get the end through, which would then have to be filled/sealed. I have done it a few times before but fitted network points either end. These are basically sockets that you plug into. Once done they are very effective and very neat.

 

[askewshair]

And this is why I love Not 606!
Thanks fellas for your advice. Think I'm gonna go for the wireless powerline once I establish the lay out of my ring main.

 

[askewshair]

Yeah 55Mbps is more than enough for most purposes. The higher speeds are great when it's a few people using it or if you want to download stuff like video games, but for ****posting on here and Facebook and stuff you'd be fine with about 10-15Mbps to be honest.

Ermm my posts are quality PLT

 

[askewshair]

Sorry mate, didn't mean to confuse you. What I have suggested are two very different solutions. For ease option 1 all the way, just not if you are a keen online gamer in the conservatory.

1. Wireless powerlines - These come in a set of two. You plug one into the power socket near your router and the other in your conservatory IF it's on the same ring mains. If not, then plug in as close to your conservatory as you can get assuming the adjoining room is on the same ring mains. This would run internet around your ring mains and provide a strong wireless signal in the area around your conservatory. I originally thought you had said the conservatory was not on the same ring mains but I may have confused you with another post.

2. External run of Cat5 - needs to be right, wouldn't recommend getting cable with ends already made as it means a bigger hole to drill to get the end through, which would then have to be filled/sealed. I have done it a few times before but fitted network points either end. These are basically sockets that you plug into. Once done they are very effective and very neat.

I do have a bit of time on my hands so am going to run a cable. I have come to the conclusion it will be quicker/ more cost effective/ and more reliable (ie will it make a difference) than powerlines??

Are you on the 5Ghz wireless? To have half a chance of getting anywhere near full speed you have to use 5Ghz. Laptops/PC's can be easily upgraded with a £10 USB adapter

I know this wasn't answering my question, but have the same issue. Seems I probably lost my 5ghz wireless when upgrading to windows 10. Is it worth reinstalling drivers as sounds like that is a fix. I have installed drivers manually a while ago, but not totally confident.

Excuse the non technical descriptions!!

 

[GlassHalfHull]

I've got power line running to two rooms to connect an ethernet cable to a PC, and a wireless extender on the landing. All are from TP Link via Amazon warehouse deals and they work well for the price. They're "pass through" devices so you can still use the mains socket for something else.

I work for a telecoms company and use Virgin for my broadband with Sky's free service as backup. No provider is perfect, and there is too much "postcode lottery" in what service you get. It's a bit like living in Brid and having to accept that if you are ill your hospital options are Scarborough and Hull. It's far from perfect and at some point you might prefer to move house to get what you want.

 

[tigerscanada]

. oops, wrong thread

 

[kirkellatiger]

Question for anybody technical - I have Lighstream and there are 2 connections. There's a normal connection which I'm using and a "5G" connection.
What's the 5G connection for and which connection is best?

 

[GlassHalfHull]

Question for anybody technical - I have Lighstream and there are 2 connections. There's a normal connection which I'm using and a "5G" connection.
What's the 5G connection for and which connection is best?

5G is faster but doesn't always give you as good a connection. Some devices can't connect to 5G.

 

[PLT]

5G is faster but doesn't always give you as good a connection. Some devices can't connect to 5G.

Roughly what he said, but there's no guarantee 5GHz will be any faster in real terms.

 

[bashdabish]

I do have a bit of time on my hands so am going to run a cable. I have come to the conclusion it will be quicker/ more cost effective/ and more reliable (ie will it make a difference) than powerlines??


I know this wasn't answering my question, but have the same issue. Seems I probably lost my 5ghz wireless when upgrading to windows 10. Is it worth reinstalling drivers as sounds like that is a fix. I have installed drivers manually a while ago, but not totally confident.

Excuse the non technical descriptions!!

Running Ethernet cable is 100% the best way, but not as easy as powerlines. Would have to be external CAT5e minimum for current fibre speeds. Gives you options as well because you don't have to move the fibre router if you don't want to, you could just pop a normal wireless router at the end of the ethernet run and have a bigger wireless range across your home. Normal fibre router at front giving front of home coverage, then another wireless router at rear giving rear of house coverage.

To answer your question about the 5ghz, it depends on if the wireless adapter installed is 5ghz capable. Wireless AC is the best and typical standard these days so buying a usb wireless ac adapter might be better. I would even suggest you try that first before running the ethernet as it may well improve your speeds. Typically, 2.4ghz has a better wireless range but slower throughput speeds whereas 5ghz has shorter wireless range but higher throughput speeds. However, and this is the bit I think others are missing here, it depends on WHY your 2.4ghz is running slower. Is it the distance/walls etc or is it too many competing devices on 2.4ghz. Baby monitors, cordless phones and even microwaves use the same frequency, then throw in other 2.4ghz routers and it's a nightmare. You can tweak the wireless channel but there are only 3 wireless channels that don't cross over (1, 6 & 11) and the chances are pretty slim that nothing else is on them. In this case 5ghz can have an immediate impact, and an added bonus of having much more wireless channels that do not cross over.

Hope that helps

 

[DMD]

Running Ethernet cable is 100% the best way, but not as easy as powerlines. Would have to be external CAT5e minimum for current fibre speeds. Gives you options as well because you don't have to move the fibre router if you don't want to, you could just pop a normal wireless router at the end of the ethernet run and have a bigger wireless range across your home. Normal fibre router at front giving front of home coverage, then another wireless router at rear giving rear of house coverage.

To answer your question about the 5ghz, it depends on if the wireless adapter installed is 5ghz capable. Wireless AC is the best and typical standard these days so buying a usb wireless ac adapter might be better. I would even suggest you try that first before running the ethernet as it may well improve your speeds. Typically, 2.4ghz has a better wireless range but slower throughput speeds whereas 5ghz has shorter wireless range but higher throughput speeds. However, and this is the bit I think others are missing here, it depends on WHY your 2.4ghz is running slower. Is it the distance/walls etc or is it too many competing devices on 2.4ghz. Baby monitors, cordless phones and even microwaves use the same frequency, then throw in other 2.4ghz routers and it's a nightmare. You can tweak the wireless channel but there are only 3 wireless channels that don't cross over (1, 6 & 11) and the chances are pretty slim that nothing else is on them. In this case 5ghz can have an immediate impact, and an added bonus of having much more wireless channels that do not cross over.

Hope that helps

Pfft, everyone knows that.

 

[askewshair]

Running Ethernet cable is 100% the best way, but not as easy as powerlines. Would have to be external CAT5e minimum for current fibre speeds. Gives you options as well because you don't have to move the fibre router if you don't want to, you could just pop a normal wireless router at the end of the ethernet run and have a bigger wireless range across your home. Normal fibre router at front giving front of home coverage, then another wireless router at rear giving rear of house coverage.

To answer your question about the 5ghz, it depends on if the wireless adapter installed is 5ghz capable. Wireless AC is the best and typical standard these days so buying a usb wireless ac adapter might be better. I would even suggest you try that first before running the ethernet as it may well improve your speeds. Typically, 2.4ghz has a better wireless range but slower throughput speeds whereas 5ghz has shorter wireless range but higher throughput speeds. However, and this is the bit I think others are missing here, it depends on WHY your 2.4ghz is running slower. Is it the distance/walls etc or is it too many competing devices on 2.4ghz. Baby monitors, cordless phones and even microwaves use the same frequency, then throw in other 2.4ghz routers and it's a nightmare. You can tweak the wireless channel but there are only 3 wireless channels that don't cross over (1, 6 & 11) and the chances are pretty slim that nothing else is on them. In this case 5ghz can have an immediate impact, and an added bonus of having much more wireless channels that do not cross over.

Hope that helps

That's really helpful thanks. I went to Maplins earlier to look at their prices. They were slating the router KCom provide and were telling me the only way to improve the speed would be to buy a new one! I was totally confused. Your post has given me some clarity.
Definitely going for running the Ethernet cable. I do have a 'normal wireless' router kicking around so will play around with that option.
I guess the 'distance/walls etc or is it too many competing devices' would then no longer be an issue, so don't intend to reinstall drivers to get 5GHZ.
Again cheers for your patience with a prehistoric technophobe!

 

[bashdabish]

That's really helpful thanks. I went to Maplins earlier to look at their prices. They were slating the router KCom provide and were telling me the only way to improve the speed would be to buy a new one! I was totally confused. Your post has given me some clarity.
Definitely going for running the Ethernet cable. I do have a 'normal wireless' router kicking around so will play around with that option.
I guess the 'distance/walls etc or is it too many competing devices' would then no longer be an issue, so don't intend to reinstall drivers to get 5GHZ.
Again cheers for your patience with a prehistoric technophobe!

No problem fella

 

[RicardoHCAFC]

That's really helpful thanks. I went to Maplins earlier to look at their prices. They were slating the router KCom provide and were telling me the only way to improve the speed would be to buy a new one! I was totally confused

A shop that sells routers was telling you that you should buy one instead of just getting a relatively cheap cable or two. Fancy that.*

*You might need to to solve the problem, but given that's not the way anybody else has gone for several pages and they hadn't seen your existing network either I'm guessing their sales targets are a motivation.

 

[BillyBobBallbag]

Just had an outage on pure, looked on wesite, text the number, instant reply, update and apology
Back up within ten min,

 

[askewshair]

A shop that sells routers was telling you that you should buy one instead of just getting a relatively cheap cable or two. Fancy that.*

*You might need to to solve the problem, but given that's not the way anybody else has gone for several pages and they hadn't seen your existing network either I'm guessing their sales targets are a motivation.

Probably and that is exactly why I posted on here. Like you, I have zero trust in any salesman.
Having said that, none of the experts on here has said they are wrong since I posted it.

 

[PLT]

Probably and that is exactly why I posted on here. Like you, I have zero trust in any salesman.
Having said that, none of the experts on here has said they are wrong since I posted it.

They're wrong

 

[BrAdY]

for me at least
choosing to run an external cat is a 'big job'

i'd honestly try a wifi booster first, can get them for £15 ish.. it plugs into a socket and 'boosts' your wifi acting as a virtual cable

if you are considering doing the external cable job, the £15 ain't much to pay
if you do the external job, then you need to splice the cable yourself, then put the cable mount onto the wall at both ends, it's a very good thing to do but it's more work etc.. drilling holes into your house from the outside

but like the guy said earlier, it's way more hassle to use prebuilt cables, because the hole will be way bigger

 

[ToxicPond]

I defend them a lot. I used to work for them and did my university dissertation on the UK broadband situation. I don't know many things but I do know about this. People have a totally misguided perception of the situation in Hull in particular.

An article like this pops up every couple of months. They're always incredibly vague and focus on one particular statistic with no info on there methodology, so it's hard to tell how they've actually arrived at these figures.

It seems this article is looking at the percentage of connections under 10Mbps in each constituency. We don't have the figures for the other local constituencies though. Its impossible to say much about this study since the article says so little about it, but I do know that the majority of KCOM's network now has access to a Fibre to the Premises service. Elsewhere in the country this kind of service is very rare, but it's the gold standard. You can't get the really good speeds on a copper phone line (which is what is used almost everywhere else) and over time, getting those really good speeds will be more and more important.

The fastest internet connections in the country are fitted in Hull as standard and before very long everywhere in Hull and East Yorkshire will have it. I guess there's a chance that the vast majority of streets in Hull which don't have lightstream yet are in the Eastern constituency.

 

[Barchullona]

Has anyone with a problem tried turning their router on and off?

Generous as I am I don't charge for this advice.