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He hasn't said it is always black and white, simply that it does happen elsewhere. For it to be compared with the actions of despot regimes is ludicrous and unhelpful in achieving a balanced and credible argument against the ownership style of the Allams.

My apologies. I didn't realise it was said in reply to PLT .
 
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Except they don't employ the broadcasters, the broadcasters pay for the right to broadcast. Your comparing apples and oranges here.

Which is what he said:

What the club has done is give the commentary rights to another company, one they feel is more in line with their philosophy and principles.
 
Although the BBC didn't make any money from that, the government did. The BBC didn't learn the lesson of WWII, when initially troops were listening to German stations because they looked inwards and not towards Home and Hearth, the government forced them to create the Forces Programme (which became the Light Programme), that young war time audience grew old with the BBC LP and the pirates filled a gap. The government AGAIN forced the BBC to create a pop alternative. Your argument cuts both ways though. I'm not getting into a political discussion here because this is fact and not opinion. In the 60s, many Tory MPs surreptitiously supported the pirates as a way to force through the introduction of commercial radio (and many in the Labour party resisted it). Ironically, it was one of their own - Lord Pilkington who handed the local radio to the BBC (when expected to create Commercial Radio) and essentially CR had to wait another 9 years. When the urban based pirates emerged in the late 70s and early 80s, the Tories were dead against it and many in the Labour Party surreptitiously supported it!

Local Scarborough politician Proudfoot was involved with 270. As was Don Robinson.
Officially sanctioned radio, public and commercial, was not as much fun then or since, as listening to the pirates, which gave us who were young at the time music we wanted to hear and helped many bands break through, rather than what our elders and betters thought we should be listening to.
Another of those things hard to get across to those not around at the time.
 
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Local Scarborough politician Proudfoot was involved with 270. As was Don Robinson.
Officially sanctioned radio, public and commercial, was not as much fun then or since, as listening to the pirates, which gave us who were young at the time music we wanted to hear and helped many bands break through, rather than what our elders and betters thought we should be listening to.
Another of those things hard to get across to those not around at the time.

I knew about Proudfoot and Robinson. I spoke to an American academic colleague who told me that he spent a year at Oxford University but got involved with the Pirates (in onshore admin/promotion with a feint hope of becoming a DJ) and he told me about the amount of Mafia/gangland money and some of the shady characters involved. He said 'I'm from New Jersey but it still creeped me out'. I vaguely remember listening to Caroline North (as four/five year old) but have quite a few recordings from the time. I interviewed the Emperor Rosco and he told me some some great stories. Very exciting for those involved in the broadcasting.
 
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There is only one reason behind this decision, Ehab's got the hump with Burnsy, there's nothing commercial about it.

That may well be the case, but it is a commercial decision and that cannot be denied. The guesswork about uptake and revenues discredits some ITK posters.

The whole financial balance, between the BBC and the independents, has changed dramatically in recent times. You just have to look at the BBC salaries debacle, Talkshite getting EFL and other developments to have some degree of scepticism about the ITK financial thoughts. I think it is a commercial decision where they have managed to take two birds with one stone. But, like you, I don't really know for sure.
 
I knew about Proudfoot and Robinson. I spoke to an American academic colleague who told me that he spent a year at Oxford University but got involved with the Pirates (in onshore admin/promotion with a feint hope of becoming a DJ) and he told me about the amount of Mafia/gangland money and some of the shady characters involved. He said 'I'm from New Jersey but it still creeped me out'. I vaguely remember listening to Caroline North (as four/five year old) but have quite a few recordings from the time. I interviewed the Emperor Rosco and he told me some some great stories. Very exciting for those involved in the broadcasting.

My mate's dad used to supply 270 from his fishing cobble. Used to get some records before anyone had heard them and some interesting demos which the daftbsod ditched and might have been worth a few bob now. Fun days, something new happening all the time through the 1960s.
 
That may well be the case, but it is a commercial decision and that cannot be denied. The guesswork about uptake and revenues discredits some ITK posters.

The whole financial balance, between the BBC and the independents, has changed dramatically in recent times. You just have to look at the BBC salaries debacle, Talkshite getting EFL and other developments to have some degree of scepticism about the ITK financial thoughts. I think it is a commercial decision where they have managed to take two birds with one stone. But, like you, I don't really know for sure.

You are aware that Viking also did commentaries last season and barely anyone listened to them?
 
How long until Viking FM have their named changed to Vikings Tigers cos we all know Ehore hates letters at the end of your name
 
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You are aware that Viking also did commentaries last season and barely anyone listened to them?
I wondered about that. Towards the end of the season Burns & Swan didn't appear on air commentary on TigersPlayer. Can't remember the names of those who replaced them, but maybe even then Viking had shunted RH out of the picture.
The Burns & Swan show was a hybrid of "Burns & Allen" and "Flanders & Swan". Daft at times, but they'll be missed.
 
I wondered about that. Towards the end of the season Burns & Swan didn't appear on air commentary on TigersPlayer. Can't remember the names of those who replaced them, but maybe even then Viking had shunted RH out of the picture.
The Burns & Swan show was a hybrid of "Burns & Allen" and "Flanders & Swan". Daft at times, but they'll be missed.

City switched to using Viking on Tigers Player last season, presumably a dry run for this season.
 
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Viking isn't available nationwide on DAB but they do have sister stations, though I doubt they would carry Viking commentary unless we play someone in the sister station's area.
 
It looks increasingly like the DAB output will be restricted to Hull and the East Riding, meaning we've just lost FM to digital, on a smaller station and the listener numbers can only fall.
 
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