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  1. Off The Line

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    Careful, you're starting to sound more robotic than Theresa herself.
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

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    That'll be it, they're all just idiots who didn't pay any attention to policies and just voted the way they always do.

    Or maybe they all just hate foxes?

    <doh>
     
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    Strong & Stable.

    Will there be another GE when she ****s off as all those who voted "May for PM" will have been ripped off?
     
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  4. Off The Line

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    And elephants.
     
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  5. bum_chinned_crab

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    I don't see how being in a worse position than she was yesterday is 'winning'. She could've sat tight for 3 years and been in a better place than she is today.
     
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  6. Walter Sobchak

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    I read quite an interesting article about why working class would vote Tory.

    For years theorists bought into the 'duping' principle. Essentially that the powers that be dupe working class people by saying things like 'we'll protect you from terrorists' but now this is being discredited. This is one paragraph:

    "Here's a more painful but ultimately constructive diagnosis, from the point of view of moral psychology: politics at the national level is more like religion than it is like shopping. It's more about a moral vision that unifies a nation and calls it to greatness than it is about self-interest or specific policies. In most countries, the right tends to see that more clearly than the left. In America the Republicans did the hard work of drafting their moral vision in the 1970s, and Ronald Reagan was their eloquent spokesman. Patriotism, social order, strong families, personal responsibility (not government safety nets) and free enterprise. Those are values, not government programmes."

    I think thats key, because labour seem to really have captured an overarching value and ethos now as oppose to just a collection of policies.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/jun/05/why-working-class-people-vote-conservative
     
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  7. Amin Yapusi

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    Facking hell.

    I didn't need to bother with any of that ****e. It probably helped that I'd had 4 months of wages paid into a new bank account which I hadn't even touched.
     
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  8. Happy Tiger

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    The Tories form a coalition, or reach an agreement with the DUP.

    How's that stop their plans?

    Labour will be back to infighting before long.
     
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  9. AlRawdah

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    Won, lost, irrelevant really. Did the Government achieve what they set out to achieve? Certainly not.

    The approach to both Brexit and austerity will now have to flex. I doubt that's seen as "winning" by the PM.
     
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  10. Walter Sobchak

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    I didn't call it winning did i?
     
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  11. PLT

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    But as you've conceded, she didn't even have any policies. The Conservative argument was literally just "look how silly those other guys are" plus the usual media backhanders to try and brainwash a few. That was the best they could offer as a reason to vote for them. Of all the promises they could have made about the country, they decided to make absolutely none. Apart from to torture some foxes as you say, cos that'll really improve things.

    Minority parties could promise absolutely anything and they wouldn't get in, because people just vote based on this daft loyalty. It's too partisan.
     
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  12. Walter Sobchak

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    "how often do you spend money having fun?" was a genuine question I was asked.
     
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  13. Amin Yapusi

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    Remember when we were 4-0 down at Old Trafford and came back to 4-3?

    One of the greatest city victories I've ever seen.
     
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  14. Off The Line

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    Except that game has finished, this one's gone into extra time.
     
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    I never said they had no policies, of course they had policies. :emoticon-0114-dull:
     
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    :emoticon-0147-emo:
     
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  17. Walter Sobchak

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    Labour have won 3 more seats than Gordon Brown <laugh> Yeah they're flying now.

    Shame The Yorkshire Party didn't win.
     
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  18. Walter Sobchak

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    I'm totally shocked the tories have double figure seats in Scotland.
     
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    No I remember us being 4-1 down and getting it back to 4-3. Cousin equalised if memory serves me correctly.
     
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    Gordon Brown was a sitting PM. Corbyn was 24 points down a month ago and predictions were for a 400 seat landslide.
     
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