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  1. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    Pity you didn't write June and at least get the month right.
     
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  2. Amin Yapusi

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    I haven't actually been yet.

    I will be voting for myself. Rest assured.
     
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  3. The greengrocer

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    The NHS has been broke for a long time! And a labour supporter can't just keep rolling out the old NHS debate every time there's an election! The decline of the NHS was over seen by Blair also! Which is conveniently forgotten!
     
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    Pretty sure Clinton got more votes that Trump yet lost. Whats
     
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  5. PLT

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    Blair and his ilk are irrelevant, they're nothing like the current Labour party; they were just tories in red ties. Jeremy Hunt wants a privatised NHS and the tories put him in charge of it. The NHS may have had issues before, but under this austerity it's in very real danger of collapse. I think it's sad if people resent actual relevant issues such as the NHS being a key topic at election times, presumably it'd be better if there was more of the petty personality politics and cringey media campaigns and less of this inconvenient talk about actual policies.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    Scrapping first past the post doesn't normally have much bearing on the outcome for the two main parties, it just increases the amount of votes minority parties get. This would have been the outcome of the last election under PR, just good news for UKIP and the Greens...

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    The right picture looks a lot better to me. It's a shame that all those votes go ignored and the smaller parties no matter what they propose will always struggle to get any seats.
     
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  8. Tobes

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    Working class Tories ffs. For shame.
     
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    The austerity measures haven't resulted in a drop in funding for the NHS, they always go up every year and they're going to carry on doing so.

    The issue is the fact that NHS costs are spiraling, they go up by almost a billion a year and it's still not enough, we should stop developing cures for stuff to keep the numbers down...
     
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  10. Amin Yapusi

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    It would be better if the NHS didn't exist to be honest. Less tax burden and private health care. Health insurance would cost most people a lot less than they contribute to the NHS in tax/nics.
     
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    It'd have a massive effect on the outcome, as those numbers clearly show I.e.that the Tories wouldn't have had a majority.
     
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    Until there's a party that sits perfectly within my life style and demands then so be it?
     
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  13. PLT

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    And then health care can be just for those that can afford it. Yay.
     
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    What absolute pap. Health insurance in the US costs around $20k a year for a family of 4.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    I agree completely with you. It would encourage more parties to get involved, give everyone more options, stop the top two parties being ridiculous shabby ****s like they always are and people would actually vote for them without fear of their vote being wasted.

    The problem would come as a massive overhaul of the entire system would be needed to make it work else nothing would ever get agreed upon as we'd have 50 million parties squabbling about crap. I don't know how it'd be made to work but I'm sure someone could figure out a system.
     
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  16. The greengrocer

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    You can't just ignore blairs tenure FFS??? How did the song go? "Things can only get better" well it did for Blair didn't it? How much is he worth now? <laugh> I've just read that he owns 10 homes! Red my arse!
     
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    That's what happens for former prime ministers, presidents etc. They earn all their money when out of office. How much is Cameron worth now? How much does Osbourne trouser?
     
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  18. PLT

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    No don't ignore him, but he's in no way indicative of the Labour party now. It's completely different. I wouldn't be voting for labour if it was Blair's ToryLite labour.
     
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  19. Amin Yapusi

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    It's not anywhere near that much and the family of 4 hardly pays it. Employers contribute a lot and there's tax rebates and all sorts. It's quite complicated but it's a better system than ours and the quality of their care is vastly superior to ours.
     
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