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I did play football at Everthorpe Borstal once, which was an education in it self.

I'm sure there is bullying at private schools as well, but the one I went to, I had the best time at school and still keep in touch with some old class mates.

I played once at Everthorpe, 12 in 13 out caused a fracas until one of the lads remembered he'd come in his own car & got off the bus.
 
Not read the previous 70 pages of this thread, but, for what its worth. 6 reasons to vote tory 1. Jeremy Corbyn 2. Dianne Abbot 3. John McDonald 4. Seamus Milne 5. The Liberal Democrats 6. If you voted 'Leave', how the hell else can you vote? This from a one time staunch trade unionist and life long Labour voter!

Sums it up perfectly!
 
I don't know why you keep posting this, people are quite obviously voting for May or Corybyn to be Prime Minister when they vote, they don't normally give a **** who their local MP is.

I post it because it's 100% undeniably correct and if people are voting for the leaders when not living in their constituency then they're wrong to do so.

If people vote for May today and / or against Corbyn and both parties change leader next week then there won't be another general election and there is nothing they can do about it. FACT.
 
I post it because it's 100% undeniably correct and if people are voting for the leaders when not living in their constituency then they're wrong to do so.

If people vote for May today and / or against Corbyn and both parties change leader next week then there won't be another general election and there is nothing they can do about it. FACT.

Yes, but you know perfectly well that they are actually voting for the government they want, not for their local MP.
 
Saw this on Facebook, and interesting example.



Corbyn's Vision.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Corbyn's vision of socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Corbyn's ideological plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for £ 's) something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
The last one to leave turn the lights out.
 
Saw this on Facebook, and interesting example.



Corbyn's Vision.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Corbyn's vision of socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Corbyn's ideological plan”. All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A…. (substituting grades for £ 's) something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D! No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
It could not be any simpler than that.
There are five morals to this story:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
The last one to leave turn the lights out.
Once read something similar regarding the then Lada plant in I think Leningrad. The cars where poor due to the fact that the crapist worker was paid same as the best. Eventually the quality dropped when the penny also did for the best workers. This was years ago. Not sure hoe accurate.
 
And you know perfectly well that they are wrong to do that and what I say is correct.

That's why I keep posting it.

This is why I think the system is so immensely broken. Like OLM says, most people are voting for the party they want in government (maybe even just the leader they like in some cases). Yet for the majority of the country, their vote literally will count for nothing towards who gets into government because of the consituency they live in. It's a right mess.
 
I post it because it's 100% undeniably correct and if people are voting for the leaders when not living in their constituency then they're wrong to do so.

If people vote for May today and / or against Corbyn and both parties change leader next week then there won't be another general election and there is nothing they can do about it. FACT.

I voted for May. Her name wasn't on the paper so I wrote it on and drew a box.
 
Once read something similar regarding the then Lada plant in I think Leningrad. The cars where poor due to the fact that the crapist worker was paid same as the best. Eventually the quality dropped when the penny also did for the best workers. This was years ago. Not sure hoe accurate.

Pretty accurate I would say, I had a lot to do with Soviet factory fishing vessels in the cold war years, and that was very much the impression I got on board these vessels.
 
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