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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 6, 2017.

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  1. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    He who has the youth has the future. Today we will see whether Corbyn inspires enough young people to vote.

    Corbyn is not going to change his tune if he gets elected. he'll employ more police officers as he said he would do. He'll stop arms sales to Saudi Arabia and abolish tuition fees. His programme is fairly moderate when you peel back all the propaganda from both sides. Not too dissimilar to Blair's in 1996.

    Your right though he is a danger to the establishment, an establishment that has grown fat and bloated under Blair and the Tories. The ground is shaking just a little. Interesting times.
     
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  2. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    OK now...<ok>
     
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  3. Party Hull!

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    Young people - put your tamagotchis and Gameboys down and get out a vote.

    End the scourge of hyper-individualism.
     
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  4. Off The Line

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    Taxpayers fund the NHS entirely, so it depends where governments choose to put the money. It suits the current lot to line the pockets of their friends and peers. It's well documented that we spend less on our NHS than any health service of its kind across the world.
     
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    Our health service is a liability. The UK is too saturated for it to be viable. It was great and affordable when it started, just look at the shear amount of funding it needs now to be practical. Even Labours funding pledge barely scratches the surface.
     
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  6. PLT

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    You can get a decent education at a state school. Many do. Private schools are better and are exclusive to only the very wealthy, but are in no way essential. No matter what they do, most people will never be able to afford it. I'd call that about as perfect an example of a luxury as you'll get.
     
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  7. originallambrettaman

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    As you seem to have completely missed the point, it was Labour who got the NHS £300b in debt with private finance initiatives.

    Your second comment is simply nonsense, health care spending per capita by country...

    Australia 4420
    Austria 5016
    Belgium 4611
    Canada 4608
    Chile 1728
    Czech Republic 2464
    Denmark 4943
    Estonia 1824
    Finland 3984
    France 4407
    Germany 5267
    Greece 2245
    Hungary 1845
    Iceland 4012
    Ireland 5131
    Israel 2533
    Italy 3272
    Japan 4150
    Korea 2488
    Latvia 1370
    Luxembourg 7765
    Mexico 1052
    Netherlands 5343
    New Zealand 3590
    Norway 6567
    Poland 1677
    Portugal 2631
    Slovak Republic 2064
    Slovenia 2644
    Spain 3153
    Sweden 5228
    Switzerland 6935
    Turkey 1064
    United Kingdom 4003
    United States 9451
     
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  8. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    You just pick a school with lower fees. When the Tories increased VAT to 15% under Thatcher and 20% under Cameron I had to readjust my spending. Same when they introduced VAT on gas and electricity.
     
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  9. Happy Tiger

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    Frig me, you really are out of touch.

    Fidget Spinners.

    That's what the kids today are playing with.

    Basically they're just spinning tops. Mental.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    They don't vary that much, so it's not much of an option.
     
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  12. Ullofaman

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    Hail the Leader of the Free World,....well OK, of Europe,......well, of the Realm now that the trifling appendage that is the EU has been cut off into oblivion. Along with our special close friend, the USA, and Donald's latest friend, and therefore surely ours too, the democracy that is Saudi Arabia, the world is now in safe hands like never before.


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  13. Obadiah

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    According to the Telegraph the average private school fees in May 2017 were £14,102. That just over £10,000 cheaper then the figure you mentioned.
     
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  14. Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR

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    The first GE I remember was in 1945 and we had a Commander standing as the Labour candidate in East Hull.

    Will always remember the little ditty which was sung at the time.


    Vote,vote vote for Commander Pursey
    You can't vote for a better man.
    Commander Pursey is the one and we'll have him If we can
    And we will throw old Churchill in the dock.

    Pursey won in a landslide and East Hull has been Labour ever since.
     
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  15. Walter Sobchak

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    I think if we look at things logically most people who vote labour and most people who vote Tory are good, hard working people.

    The 'elite' snobs who vote Tory, laughing on their boats are very few. As are the benefit hoarding, lazy **** stereotype of the left.

    A vast, vast number of people who vote for both are english, middle of the road type people who just differ on the best way to have a decent country.

    I accept that most labour voting people are honest, decent folk but I doubt it works the other way around. Surely labour voters can't think all the millions of normal people who vote tory are all massive rich ****s that despise everyone else?
     
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    You'll struggle to find a private school that costs less than basic £12kpa. Two kids means £24k, plus a few extras like school trip and you need at least £50k pa gross to cover it.
     
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    I'm not a 'Labour voter', I vote as I see fit at the time, but I certainly don't view Tory voters in this way. In my experience, the wider trait that applies is 'my priority is for me and my family'.
     
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  18. Carmine Galante.

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    You can get a decent education at state school, you can also a really ****e one.

    For the umpteenth time I am not wealthy but what I have got I have earned through hard work.

    I go without to send my kids private.
     
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  19. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Well if you can go without for your kids you can go without for everyone who's less fortunate.

    You have money, I want it. You don't deserve it. I do.
     
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  20. The greengrocer

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    It isn't about the school its the pupil that matters! My daughter went to hessle and got A's then went to university! People make a big deal of something that isn't a big deal! In all walks of life from Stone Age to Now you'll have the haves & the haven'ts! Why are the royals held in such high regard by MOST of the population? People from lower, middle & higher class stand together clapping them at state ceremonies! The arguments of class only crops up during elections! Work hard and you'll get your rewards! #FACT
     
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