Transfer Rumours Summer 2017 transfer window

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Of Phelan's 24 games in charge last season, he started 13 and came on as a sub in another four.

Marco started him very game he was available for, but he was certainly no bit-part player under Phelan.

The only games he started for Phelan in the league was when we played 3 at the back or when someone was unavailable. He was third choice.

I said that he was a regular under Silva.

He started 9 in the league under Phelan.
 
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Everyone seems to forget that Harry was only a regular for us since Marco took over. He's really only had 6 months of PL football, and not that much in the championship either.

To get around £20m for him is fantastic.
This is what you started with. Regardless of order of preference, he was a regular under Phelan. FACT.
 
Of Phelan's 24 games in charge last season, he started 13 and came on as a sub in another four.

Marco started him very game he was available for, but he was certainly no bit-part player under Phelan.

Hmm, maybe semantics here but I'd say starting 54% was maybe bit-part.

If he was fit for them all anyway.
 
Hmm, maybe semantics here but I'd say starting 54% was maybe bit-part.

If he was fit for them all anyway.

He was injured at the start of last season and missed our first 2 league games.

Then when he was fit MP continued with Davies and Livermore as the CB pairing with Harry as sub until the Bournemouth game in mid-October when he then made his first start so he was definitely a bit-part player until then.
 
Nine starts and four sub appearances in twenty league games, two of which he wasn't available for, is far better than being a bit-part player, he actually played in 72% of the games he was available for.

Hmmm, he was in essence a bit part player and third choice.

We can argue all day about the triviality. But he certainly wasn't first choice under Phelan

He played 916 mins of the 18 league games. It's just over 50%, he was on the fringes and we only had about 3 players at the time too
 
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Hmmm, he was in essence a bit part player and third choice.

We can argue all day about the triviality. But he certainly wasn't first choice under Phelan

He played 826 mins of the 18 league games. It's basically 50%, he was on the fringes and we only had about 3 players at the time too
Your point wasn't initially about being first, second, third or fourth choice, it was about the amount of games played. You're shifting the goal posts to elongate an argument that never needed to be had.
 
Your point wasn't initially about being first, second, third or fourth choice, it was about the amount of games played. You're shifting the goal posts to elongate an argument that never needed to be had.

And he made 50% of starts in the league. He wasn't a regular under my book. For that, you have to be first choice and play the vast majority of games your available for. Dawson and Davies were in my opinion both regulars under Phelan but Maguire played second fiddle.

My point was that to get anywhere around £20m for him is a great deal when his only long term run in the side was for 6 months under Silva
 
And he made 50% of starts in the league. He wasn't a regular under my book. For that, you have to be first choice and play the vast majority of games your available for. Dawson and Davies were in my opinion both regulars under Phelan but Maguire played second fiddle.

My point was that to get anywhere around £20m for him is a great deal when his only long term run in the side was for 6 months under Silva
****ing hell, which thread aren't you two arguing on?
 
Everyone seems to forget that Harry was only a regular for us since Marco took over. He's really only had 6 months of PL football, and not that much in the championship either.

To get around £20m for him is fantastic.

This is what EPT originally posted. I don't agree that it'd be fantastic to lose him for £20m but his point was perfectly valid ffs.
 
This is what EPT originally posted. I don't agree that it'd be fantastic to lose him for £20m but his point was perfectly valid ffs.

Then people started nitpicking over whether he was a regular for us before Silva.