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Were only selling basically cos the board dont wanna risk losing him for nothing, we have known this was coming all summer and from what I have heard the deal will only be santioned once we have signed Pieters.

Your in the same situation with Gordon sell him this summer or lose a prized asset for nothing in 12 months
 
commachio said:
Any of you other Mags on here like to give us your honest opinion............as well...

Surely some must be gutted if he goes.
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It's hard to be gutted though when we seem to already have a quality replacement lined up. We've known Enrique would be off for months, so the shock of the whole thing was never there.

I'm disappointed though, definitely. Not gutted, just disappointed. Mind you, I will be gutted if we don't bring in a good replacement, cos we'll be ****ed.

Topcat said:
First choice for Holland is good enough for you? His only competition is Wilfred Bouma who is old and was never good to start with.
LB has been their weak spot for year's and still is.
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He's obviously not the best in the world by any stretch of the imagination. If he's first choice for Holland though, one of the best national teams in the world, then I'm fairly confident he has something to do the job for us. Seeing him play just confirms that. Not expecting someone superb.
 
I think this relegation talk is well off to be honest, Wigan have signed their death warrant selling N'zogbia.
Their are at least 5/6 team's easily worse than them.
 
Enrique is one of the best in the league.

Pieters is ****.

He's only in the Dutch squad because they struggle to produce wing backs, Van Bronkhorst remained first choice till he was 36-37 ish.

Hasn't Anita of Ajax often been preferred to Pieters, despite being right-footed?

Remove the question element of that, as i was stating a fact.

You'd have been better going for Warnock.
 
Grem1983 said:
Were only selling basically cos the board dont wanna risk losing him for nothing, we have known this was coming all summer and from what I have heard the deal will only be santioned once we have signed Pieters.

Your in the same situation with Gordon sell him this summer or lose a prized asset for nothing in 12 months
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we already have two international goalkeepers fighting for his number 1 shirt, so if gordon goes it's no big deal!!
 
biggeordiedave said:
Commachio, of course it'll be a massive loss, but we can't argue with money.I've said it before and I'll say it again if the super rich clubs want players, they can have them. I'm gutted that he's leaving, but I've resigned myself to this ever since he started becoming one of our best players.

If Gyan has an absolute barnstormer of a season but Sunderland don't reach Europe, he'll be off. You may disagree, but when Spurs, Liverpool or Chelsea come in offering him double wages and a £1m signing on fee, he'll lose interest in Sunderland, much in the same way Enrique has with us. You'd have to be a complete idiot not to see he lost interest towards the end of the season and it showed in his football from time to time.

Teams like ours are stuck in endless cycles of replacing our best players. Whilst we both have billionaire owners, they're not prepared to put the same sort of money into the clubs that the likes of Mansour, Abramovich or Henry are. And for that reason, we'll never compete with them.
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Can't argue with this.
 
Bruceys Beak said:
Enrique is one of the best in the league.

Pieters is ****.

He's only in the Dutch squad because they struggle to produce wing backs, Van Bronkhorst remained first choice till he was 36-37 ish.

Hasn't Anita of Ajax often been preferred to Pieters, despite being right-footed?

Remove the question element of that, as i was stating a fact.

You'd have been better going for Warnock.
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Nowt personal mate but ad rather trust Graham Carr's judgment that yours
 
Well I am absolutely gutted that he has gone. It was to be expected mind.

I think that Enrique is a super player, he used to scare me sometimes though, as he always wants to try and play the ball out of defence and took more than a few chances in doing this.

I would hope that as we have known for months that he was going, we would have a decent replacement lined up. Pieters looks decent enough, but you never know with NUFC.

Enrique going will have weakened the team, but he wants to break into the Spanish national team and has ambitions for playing in Europe, neither of which look like happening if he stayed with Newcastle. Liverpool have a much higher profile and by spending like they have, they are showing that at least they have ambitions of getting back into European football.
 
Grem1983 said:
Jose was refusing to sign, so he has forced our hand
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Yeah, really, it was clear a while back he was gonna go though, you'd have been better biting the bullet and selling earlier, it's cost you a few quid off his true value, for sure.

He'll become Spain's number 3 at Anfield.

Can i add i was ITK on this, i posted on the Liverpool v Sunderland thread an hour before it hit the news ;)
 
Bruceys Beak said:
Yeah, really, it was clear a while back he was gonna go though, you'd have been better biting the bullet and selling earlier, it's cost you a few quid off his true value, for sure.

He'll become Spain's number 3 at Anfield.

Can i add i was ITK on this, i posted on the Liverpool v Sunderland thread an hour before it hit the news ;)
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I think the offers havent been there to sell him early, and as I said b4 I believe that the deal wont be allowed to go through till the Pieters deal is tied up, and Pieters has a clause in he contract to allow him to leave, so its just a case of agreeing terms with the player
 
Grem1983 said:
I think the offers havent been there to sell him early, and as I said b4 I believe that the deal wont be allowed to go through till the Pieters deal is tied up, and Pieters has a clause in he contract to allow him to leave, so its just a case of agreeing terms with the player
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I'd imagine that Liverpool will force for the deal to be done before the weekend, and Ashley will go for that regardless, rather than lose the deal.

Shouldn't be hard to tie Pieters down though, he'll be on peanuts compared to the Premier League, and as Jose is freeing up a reported 60k a week, half of that should be ample.
 
Bruceys Beak said:
I'd imagine that Liverpool will force for the deal to be done before the weekend, and Ashley will go for that regardless, rather than lose the deal.

Shouldn't be hard to tie Pieters down though, he'll be on peanuts compared to the Premier League, and as Jose is freeing up a reported 60k a week, half of that should be ample.
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Jose is(was) on £46k with us, will be getting £60k at Liverpool
 
Bruceys Beak said:
Enrique is one of the best in the league.

Pieters is ****.

He's only in the Dutch squad because they struggle to produce wing backs, Van Bronkhorst remained first choice till he was 36-37 ish.

Hasn't Anita of Ajax often been preferred to Pieters, despite being right-footed?

Remove the question element of that, as i was stating a fact.

You'd have been better going for Warnock.
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How can you say Pieters is **** if you've barely seen him? He's quite a good player and a solid left back.

As I said, being first choice for Holland doesn't mean he's a world beater, but he'll do for us.
 
Chappaz said:
How can you say Pieters is **** if you've barely seen him? He's quite a good player and a solid left back.

As I said, being first choice for Holland doesn't mean he's a world beater, but he'll do for us.
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Seen him quite a bit Chappaz, as it happens.

The Dutch League is widely broadcast on bet365, pretty much every PSV & Ajax game is on their, as well as ESPN showing the early game on a Sunday last season.

****'s a bit extreme, but i'd say average, and that's in a weaker league.

He'll be ok i imagine, but he's certainly markedly weaker than Jose.

Big lad mind, 6 footer.
 
That lot will be selling the tea set out of the boardroom next. Pardew has now lost 3 or their best 4 now and Barton is out in the cold. They look set for a long hard winter. They must be looking like favourites for the drop. What are the bookies saying about their chances?
 
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