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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

  • IN

    Votes: 28 43.8%
  • OUT

    Votes: 34 53.1%
  • DON'T KNOW

    Votes: 4 6.3%

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
who's that?

Corbyn? no i think his antics in the referendum drop the mask. he's no principles other than he's right. he actively sabotaged the campaign... then said the polar opposite to his belief albeit half heatedly..

Basically after than nobody could believe a word out of his mouth.

But in the context of being able to make the exact same criticism against Boris, who's on the verge of being PM.

Cameron told Corbyn to go because it made it more difficult to then resign. If Cameron actually cared about the country he would have called for Boris to be expelled from the Conservative party for blatantly lying.

edit: Boris out
 
But in the context of being able to make the exact same criticism against Boris, who's on the verge of being PM.

Cameron told Corbyn to go because it made it more difficult to then resign. If Cameron actually cared about the country he would have called for Boris to be expelled from the Conservative party for blatantly lying.

edit: Boris out

Nope - he's [HASHTAG]#bottledit[/HASHTAG]

As for Corbyn, what a clown.

170 of his MP's have voted to bin him off, he's been laughed at in the Commons and the opposition leaders have told him to have some ****ing dignity.

But he's clinging to the fact that the 'rank and file' still want him (which is debateable in itself) but totally irrelevant to his situation as a supposed 'Leader' of the opposition.

He has zero credibility now, his own MP's have no faith in him, so how could he ever be a credible candidate for PM with the broader electorate?

His protracted and quite frankly embarrassing demise sums up his entire tenure imo. A decent bloke, who appealed to the traditional Labour voter, but who was never going to win over the hearts and minds of the voters he needed to actually win an election, due to his left wing background. He proved his leadership skills were awful during the referendum and his own team have lynched him, so just **** off Jeremy
 
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Boris got played by Gove big style. If you haven't already read the leaked email written by his vile Mail columnist wife to a friend have a look

We knew already but it's all coming out now what the Leave campaign was really all about for the Tory politicians at its forefront, a power-play, and then Farage was just the mutant smaller second head that sprouted for a month or two and got excised and dumped in a medical hazard bin after the result

At least May was Remain but she'll have to and definitely will retract that in her leadership campaign. All of which will be fought on a platform of 'making the best of it' now that their cronies are on the brink of bringing us out and of 'uniting the party and country in the national economic and societal interest'. I say on the brink as we still are a member of the EU of course. So i really find it hard to gain any satisfaction in Boris getting done over since the ground has already been prepared by him and others for the next leader and future PM to sow it with their seeds of Thatcherite, hateful, regressive impotence

Key phrase -" Murdoch and Dacre don't trust him (Boris)". I know some people on here think I'm a paranoid nut who sees Murdoch everywhere, but he rules all aspects of our lives far more than Brussels ever did or do. My theory - Boris never thought he'd win and is a Europhile (his dad said as much during the campaign), but expected a close race, Cameron to stand down a year early, and he'd be the unifying candidate appeasing the Eurosceptics and taking credit for the European rules on immigration and free movement being reformed (as they now will). He looked utterly stunned last Friday - 'What the **** do I do now?'.

Now, back in Feb when he came out for Leave he did fly the kite that if a Leave win vote was tight, he'd regard it as a firm bargaining position for staying in for the long run. He was slapped down and changed what he was saying, but...

What if Boris has flown that kite privately during the weekend and, importantly, Murdoch and Dacre (themselves stunned but happy with the Leave vote), get behind Richard III against Edward IV? Murdoch The Kingmaker?

I don't like May -she's to the right of Cameron - but rather her than Goveadder. Especially as there's no Labour Party nowadays... :angry:
 
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Nope - he's [HASHTAG]#bottledit[/HASHTAG]

As for Corbyn, what a clown.

170 of his MP's have voted to bin him off, he's been laughed at in the Commons and the opposition leaders have told him to have some ****ing dignity.

But he's clinging to the fact that the 'rank and file' still want him (which is debateable in itself) but totally irrelevant to his situation as a supposed 'Leader' of the opposition.

He has zero credibility now, his own MP's have no faith in him, so how could he ever be a credible candidate for PM with the broader electorate?

His protracted and quite frankly embarrassing demise sums up his entire tenure imo. A decent bloke, who appealed to the traditional Labour voter, but who was never going to win over the hearts and minds of the voters he needed to actually win an election, due to his left wing background. He proved his leadership skills were awful during the referendum and his own team have lynched him, so just **** off Jeremy

I'm a member of that rank and file and have been since I changed unions to one that isn't affiliated to Labour (RMT). I never voted for him, and I don't know one member that did. What I will do is get off my arse this time and go the meetings and let my views be known. Shades of '83 here after the Thatcher landslide (post Falklands) when Militant embedded itself.
 
Key phrase -" Murdoch and Dacre don't trust him (Boris)". I know some people on here think I'm a paranoid nut who sees Murdoch everywhere, but he rules all aspects of our lives far more than Brussels ever did or do. My theory - Boris never thought he'd win and is a Europhile (his dad said as much during the campaign), but expected a close race, Cameron to stand down a year early, and he'd be the unifying candidate appeasing the Eurosceptics and taking credit for the European rules on immigration and free movement being reformed (as they now will). He looked utterly stunned last Friday - 'What the **** do I do now?'.

Now, back in Feb when he came out for Leave he did fly the kite that if a Leave win vote was tight, he'd regard it as a firm bargaining position for staying in for the long run. He was slapped down and changed what he was saying, but...

What if Boris has flown that kite privately during the weekend and, importantly, Murdoch and Dacre (themselves stunned but happy with the Leave vote), get behind Richard III against Edward IV? Murdoch The Kingmaker?

I don't like May -she's to the right of Cameron - but rather her than Goveadder. Especially as there's no Labour Party nowadays... :angry:
Agree about Boris equivocal Euro position and his ambition.

But the Leave side would not have had a sliver of a chance without Boris. He was the only reason for their victory and for that he should be thoroughly ashamed as heseltine stated.
 
Meanwhile back at the ranch the rate cur has driven markets wild and the pound lower.

The pigs at the trough are happy for now.

Relieved at that.
 
Crazy stuff going on.

It's a virtual lock for may now... after that it seems some Drake forces have decided she is to be the one who enacts article 50 then go and let the boys back for the general election.

Crazy stuff


It seems the tories feel they have no opponents and own the country.
 
It seems the tories feel they have no opponents and own the country.
David Cameron was kind to the labour party about the statement "It is the interest of conservative party for Corbyn to stay on as labour party leader
but not in the interest of the country". He spelled it out, but Corbyn was not listening!.
 
David Cameron was kind to the labour party about the statement "It is the interest of conservative party for Corbyn to stay on as labour party leader
but not in the interest of the country". He spelled it out, but Corbyn was not listening!.

Cameron is toast and he knows it.
 
What a choice! <yikes>
This is what I've said all along.
When people say the EU is run by unelected bureaucrats (which it isn't anyway) I wonder if that's any worse than our parliamentary democracy?
We can't shape the government we want, we can only choose between what's on offer, and they're all just as bad as one another - just in different ways.

"Take Back Power". Just another con.

Wales has been particularly shafted, btw. The turkeys have voted for Christmas.
 
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It seems to me that this is very
machiavellian.

The dark forces used Johnsons naked political advantage then tossed him aside like the fool we knew he was. Now Gove has back stabbed him there's a deal to put may in the hot seat for a little while... may to pull the dreaded trigger and then be shafted.

Meanwhile a flood more fools join the labour party. Presumably to oust the high Sparrow....

Honest to God you could not make this up.