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ON 23rd of June which way are you going to vote?.

  • IN

    Votes: 28 43.8%
  • OUT

    Votes: 34 53.1%
  • DON'T KNOW

    Votes: 4 6.3%

  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .
This is true, Remain were poor in this instance.
However, the onus is also on the electorate to do its own research if it's going to vote on such a major issue. EU funding in Wales was hardly a big secret.
This comes back to my belief that referenda are just a plain bad idea. Too few people have any real clue about the causes and effects of their decision.

Which is why I didn't vote. I get the whole democracy thing, but such a huge decision that has massive impact should be made by people who have an idea what's going on. I'd imagine at least half the people voting didn't really know the ins and outs of what each outcome really meant (and not just all the leave voters before someone chimes up).

I have no interest in politics and although probably should have taken more an interest, when you're being told the same thing by both sides it's hard unless you have real interest and knowledge to make an informed choice.
 
Don't read the mail myself but i do know they post a lot of ****. However if they are deploring racism surely that is a good thing?

With respect to the racism going on, it is horrible and theres no place for that and i wouldn't be against these sorts people going to jail (I haven't seen the vids but i can imagine how it goes).

Deport them to Europe and make them a minority and see how they feel <ok>
 
Which is why I didn't vote. I get the whole democracy thing, but such a huge decision that has massive impact should be made by people who have an idea what's going on. I'd imagine at least half the people voting didn't really know the ins and outs of what each outcome really meant (and not just all the leave voters before someone chimes up).

I have no interest in politics and although probably should have taken more an interest, when you're being told the same thing by both sides it's hard unless you have real interest and knowledge to make an informed choice.

I've always made it clear that I have no certainty what will happen either, in economic terms, but a drift further to the political right is fairly obvious given the nature of those politicians leading the Leave campaign, and that concerns me.

I wouldn't condemn anyone for not voting if they feel they're not qualified to make a choice, but there's a point here I must make.
This is not about "politics" in the party political sense, so saying you have no interest in it is a bit of a cop out. I have no interest either in their career games, but this is about all our futures - it affects us whether we take an interest in it or not, so surely we should try and affect it?
 
Had no chance to look at work but the ftse is back to preexisting levels and markets are doing very well today.

Pound is at 1.35 now.

Oil is heading back up as well.

It seems good day... many still urging caution.

Banks still hammered though.
 
I've always made it clear that I have no certainty what will happen either, in economic terms, but a drift further to the political right is fairly obvious given the nature of those politicians leading the Leave campaign, and that concerns me.

I wouldn't condemn anyone for not voting if they feel they're not qualified to make a choice, but there's a point here I must make.
This is not about "politics" in the party political sense, so saying you have no interest in it is a bit of a cop out. I have no interest either in their career games, but this is about all our futures - it affects us whether we take an interest in it or not, so surely we should try and affect it?
This ^

people talk about "Politics" as it is a westminster thing - yes there is there strange game cloaked in the term "politics" but political decisions always affect us the people which is what so many folk don't seem to get.
 
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Had no chance to look at work but the ftse is back to preexisting levels and markets are doing very well today.

Pound is at 1.35 now.

Oil is heading back up as well.

It seems good day... many still urging caution.

Banks still hammered though.

The markets have stabilised due to the fact that Cameron has ****ed off the idea of invoking Article 50.

Don't forget we're still a member of the EU as it stands today.

"Stocks and the pound are continuing to firm but the post-Brexit reality will bite sooner or later," said Joe Rundle, head of trading at ETX Capital.
"What we're seeing in the FTSE is hope in Britain being able to ride it out by remaining part of the single market. This looks like wishful thinking."
Joshua Mahony, market analyst at IG, said: "There is a confidence within the City that perhaps the implications to this vote may not be as immediate nor far reaching as many initially thought, providing opportunities for bargain hunters to grab shares at a discount. However, he added: "The big question is whether the worst is over, and the answer is unlikely to be yes. "Sentiment is almost entirely dictated by unknown quantities for the coming months and even years, where the next major event coming when or if article 50 is enacted. "As such, having such a long period with this colossal cloud hanging over financial markets will be unlikely to help confidence and risk appetite."


BBC


The immediate panic has calmed. The storm is likely ahead. We shall see.
 
The markets have stabilised due to the fact that Cameron has ****ed off the idea of invoking Article 50.

Don't forget we're still a member of the EU as it stands today.

"Stocks and the pound are continuing to firm but the post-Brexit reality will bite sooner or later," said Joe Rundle, head of trading at ETX Capital.
"What we're seeing in the FTSE is hope in Britain being able to ride it out by remaining part of the single market. This looks like wishful thinking."
Joshua Mahony, market analyst at IG, said: "There is a confidence within the City that perhaps the implications to this vote may not be as immediate nor far reaching as many initially thought, providing opportunities for bargain hunters to grab shares at a discount. However, he added: "The big question is whether the worst is over, and the answer is unlikely to be yes. "Sentiment is almost entirely dictated by unknown quantities for the coming months and even years, where the next major event coming when or if article 50 is enacted. "As such, having such a long period with this colossal cloud hanging over financial markets will be unlikely to help confidence and risk appetite."


BBC


The immediate panic has calmed. The storm is likely ahead. We shall see.

No need to add to this. This is the phoney war of Autumn 39. Article 50 will be May 40. Let's see how smug the Brexiters are then.
 
You cannot expect a guy who's job is to make money today to do anything but make money...today.

The market went down, it's gone back up. People made money. I'm just grateful that the stimulus money gone in has stabilised things. I think the confidence shown is people think this is not 2008. The issue is 100k jobs in London could be just that 2008. Nobody knows.

Hopefully the first 5hing we see is a quick leadership contest from both parties and clear leadership established. After that.... well things will depend on who gets the jobs.
 
You cannot expect a guy who's job is to make money today to do anything but make money...today.

The market went down, it's gone back up. People made money. I'm just grateful that the stimulus money gone in has stabilised things. I think the confidence shown is people think this is not 2008. The issue is 100k jobs in London could be just that 2008. Nobody knows.

Hopefully the first 5hing we see is a quick leadership contest from both parties and clear leadership established. After that.... well things will depend on who gets the jobs.
Has any money gone in? all I have read so far is that it has been made available if needed.
 
Has any money gone in? all I have read so far is that it has been made available if needed.

Asia.. maybe.. there's also the usual signals on interest rates that moves money about. Fed in us not increasing rates til new year having being widely expected to move then up prebrexit.

**** like that.