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[moreinjuredthanowen]

I am one of the undecided. The whole thing is becoming confusing. My head is telling In, while my heart is saying "wait".

Wait for what?

A better deal...

The reality is outside the eu there won't be any great deals.

Outside the eu there will be a balancing act of English speaking being an advantage but not in eu being a disadvantage.

The city of London will implode imo.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

They're trying to blackmail us into staying. **** the banks, they're only looking after their own interests.

And the other side are saints not trying to bribe you to go???

 

[Tobes]

They're trying to blackmail us into staying. **** the banks, they're only looking after their own interests.

They're trying to spell out the consequences of an EU exit.

The banks and economists are spelling out the economic reality.

We will almost certainly go into recession, and if interest rates rise beyond 2-3% we're absolutely ****ed as a Nation.

But hey, at least we won't have to live next door to Eastern Europeans doing minimum wage jobs that the lazy feckless doleite Brits can't be arsed getting out their pit for......

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

How will our influence in NATO diminish? We have the best intelligence services and best armed forces in the world. It's just further scaremongering from those who will lose out if we leave the EU.

The Americans can get stuffed on the subject too. Would they be blackmailed into giving up their sovereignty? Absolutely not.

I have to laugh at this... how many real aircraft carriers have we?

Best this and best that is just hilarious talk... plus it total blows the leave arguement out of the water... if they are so great how can they possibly be made better by leaving eu

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

hey're trying to spell out the consequences of an EU exit.

The banks and economists are spelling out the economic reality.

We will almost certainly go into recession, and if interest rates rise beyond 2-3% were absolutely ****ed as a Nation.

Your friend Boris Johnson do not care about Brtishext as long as his inordinate ambition is fulfilled. He planned a coup for David
Cameron, we are waiting for the military junta.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Don't know about that, maybe 20 years ago we'd have been up there but not anymore.

Not 20 years ago no way.

In 1982 thatcher had to scrape up a force and take a carrier out of the scrap pile shed put it on....

Need to wake the **** up. Luv should tell you about tornados still flying active mission statement in Syria and they were obsolete in the first gulf war.

Euro fighter... collaboration with our eu friends. Yes Nato also but the ties between companies is eu driven.

Airbus... made possible by.. yes eu trade.

I mean seriously wake up. This country is not a great superpower

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Your friend Boris Johnson do not care about Brtishext as long as his inordinate ambition is fulfilled. He planned a coup for David
Cameron, we are waiting for the military junta.

If you think borini the wigs political future us not directly tied to Brexit you are missing something big time.

Same as Mr fatsweaty north of the border. If he loses this vote he's toast.

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

And the other side are saints not trying to bribe you to go???

Like I said in an earlier post. We're getting screwed regardless of which side we agree with. The In campaign are lying, the out campaign are lying too.
Osborne has said that house prices will fall - that's one of the main reasons I've voted out as I might be able to buy a house then.
The priority reason for me however is the TTIP deal. If we stay in and that goes through the NHS is dead.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Best reason to vote stay is to give Boris a slap in the chops

If you want him as pm vote leave.

If you want him and Duncan smith consigned to the bin vote stay

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

I have to laugh at this... how many real aircraft carriers have we?

Best this and best that is just hilarious talk... plus it total blows the leave arguement out of the water... if they are so great how can they possibly be made better by leaving eu

Terrorist attacks have hapened all over Europe recently. They've been unsuccessful over here. Why? Because our services, yes diminished in size etc because of Cameron and Osbourne, are the best. By voting out we can also kick out terrorists arrested in Britain and send violent criminals back to their own countries.

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

They're trying to spell out the consequences of an EU exit.

The banks and economists are spelling out the economic reality.

We will almost certainly go into recession, and if interest rates rise beyond 2-3% we're absolutely ****ed as a Nation.

But hey, at least we won't have to live next door to Eastern Europeans doing minimum wage jobs that the lazy feckless doleite Brits can't be arsed getting out their pit for......

Economic realities? They allowed Greece into the EU, wanted us to ababdon thr Sterling, never forsaw the recent recession and you now trust them?

 

[Tobes]

Like I said in an earlier post. We're getting screwed regardless of which side we agree with. The In campaign are lying, the out campaign are lying too.
Osborne has said that house prices will fall - that's one of the main reasons I've voted out as I might be able to buy a house then.
The priority reason for me however is the TTIP deal. If we stay in and that goes through the NHS is dead.

'Kin 'Ell.

You won't be able to afford a mortgage when the interest rates start rocketing......

TTIP is nowhere near the table it'll be 3 or 4 years at least, and when and if it finally makes it there it'll have to be a deal that benefits the EU otherwise they won't agree to sign the ****ing thing.

 

[Tobes]

Economic realities? They allowed Greece into the EU, wanted us to ababdon thr Sterling, never forsaw the recent recession and you now trust them?

But we had the sense to swerve the Euro, as we could foresee what was potentially going to happen when you tied struggling economies with those of the level of the Germans and French with a single currency. What a ****ing great decision that was eh?

And guess what, it shows that we can stay within the EU framework and still maintain our own decision making....

 

[LuisDiazgamechanger]

IMF, Bank of England,World Bank, and other financial institutions cannot all be wrong. They are saying exit is suicidal.

 

[Tobes]

IMF, Bank of England,World Bank, and other financial institutions cannot all be wrong. They are saying exit is suicidal.

Because it is.

It'll cause a financial meltdown. People need to understand that on this point the bluster isn't hyperbole, it's harsh reality.

The economy will crash and it'll take us years to claw our way out of the pit that we'd have dug ourselves, and then voluntarily lobbed ourselves in.....

 

[carlthejackal]

That's because, as with most things, there are very few clear facts. All predictions of the future are based on conjecture.
I would just ask that everyone is honest with themselves about the reasons for their decision and not try to dress it up with some spurious logic.
It's a big decision, it will have an enormous impact on our nation (and others) for the foreseeable future.

I'd have more respect for the Leave people if they said that the priority for them was sovereignty issue and their wish to ensure that the EU would not affect parliamentary laws in the UK. And that yes, there may be uncertainty in the immediate future regarding the economy but that's the price to be paid to be a soveriegn nation. Instead of lying through their teeth and say that they'll put all the money saved (still going on about the £350m/week) to the NHS and creating 300,000 jobs from Brexit. Knowing full well that this is never going to happen. Certainly not from those leading Brexit.

If only people could come clean about the negatives and positives and let people decide. No side is willing to admit to any positive from the other option.

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Not 20 years ago no way.

In 1982 thatcher had to scrape up a force and take a carrier out of the scrap pile shed put it on....

Need to wake the **** up. Luv should tell you about tornados still flying active mission statement in Syria and they were obsolete in the first gulf war.

Euro fighter... collaboration with our eu friends. Yes Nato also but the ties between companies is eu driven.

Airbus... made possible by.. yes eu trade.

I mean seriously wake up. This country is not a great superpower

We have The Last Night of the Proms. And James Bond.

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

IMF, Bank of England,World Bank, and other financial institutions cannot all be wrong. They are saying exit is suicidal.

Are these the same financial institutions that plunged he world into recession?

 

[ValleyGraduate12]

Because it is.

It'll cause a financial meltdown. People need to understand that on this point the bluster isn't hyperbole, it's harsh reality.

The economy will crash and it'll take us years to claw our way out of the pit that we'd have dug ourselves, and then voluntarily lobbed ourselves in.....

How will our economy crash? Because the banks say so? The same banks that caused the last crash?

 

[Ivan Dobsky]

Are these the same financial institutions that plunged he world into recession?

If that's your viewpoint, why don't you asked Vince Cable, who predicted the 2008 crash, what he thinks of Brexit? You haven't got an economic argument (even the £350 a week to spend on the NHS has whittled down to £100m - at some stage after 2020), and the polls only shifted when immigration was brought to the fore again and again to get the Wayne and Waynetta vote. Hopefully they'll be too pissed on the day to vote.

Comparisons with the Scottish Referendum (especially with the Cyber Nats and the Brexit Trolls) abound. But evertyone knew this would happen in the last few weeks - focus on immigration and blather about the economy. And wtf the Cologne attacks (linked, I see, by many Brexit trolls to Rotherham) with EU immigration Christ knows.