Off Topic WW3 How Close?

[Ronsafc]

I lived in the Middle East for 12 years, I’m guessing you don’t know how many installations the US has in the region.. the bottom line for Iran is… if they can’t win a military war, they can win a economic war… it will cripple the US… this Orange idiot will be looking for an off ramp very soon

I do know they attacked Armenia no American bases turkey, not involved, even Cyprus not involved,
They won't cripple the us as they will just drill baby drill and keep it for themselves even push for more oil quicker from Venezuela. Meanwhile in Europe stick head in sand that renewable will fix all problems.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Thing is are you happy "to cut of you nose to spite your face" as the saying goes, what's happened has happened, are you willing to go back to paying over £2 a litre or energy bills back to pre Ukraine levels.
Unfortunately we have been pushed in to a corner here.

I agree with you to a point. We have tried to reason with Trump for the good of our economy but ultimately we are dealing with someone (and I’m not using this term lightly) who has real mental issues. He has built round him a team of complete subservient yes men and attractive yes women (because he doesn’t want ugly women working for him) who just agree with him because if they don’t or are seen to be becoming too popular they will be sacked. A pampered man child it’s the only thing he understands.

An ultimate embarrassment to the supposed greatest democracy in the world. The Americans should be embarrassed they have let’s this lunatic be in charge.

We have been warned we have our Poundland Trump here. People need to be very careful what they wish for.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

I do know they attacked Armenia no American bases turkey, not involved, even Cyprus not involved,
They won't cripple the us as they will just drill baby drill and keep it for themselves even push for more oil quicker from Venezuela. Meanwhile in Europe stick head in sand that renewable will fix all problems.

Renewables will mean we are not at the whim of madmen like Trump and Putin not to mention the Iranians and Saudis.

If this madness proves anything we need to be more reliant on own energy resources and the sensible approach is a mix of nuclear and renewables which is exactly what our government are doing.

 

[Ronsafc]

Renewables will mean we are not at the whim of madmen like Trump and Putin not to mention the Iranians and Saudis.

If this madness proves anything we need to be more reliant on own energy resources and the sensible approach is a mix of nuclear and renewables which is exactly what our government are doing.

We got over 800 years of coal underground which could be used short term but they won't, if the UN thinks it's ok for China and India then it should be ok for the UK.

 

[Ozzymac]

Iran looking after it's self by attacking over 10 neighbours who have nothing to do with the attacks

Nothing to do with the attacks other than have the bases with the equipment and personel that enable these illegal attacks to occur?
Those neighbours?

 

[Smug in Boots]

Nothing to do with the attacks other than have the bases with the equipment and personel that enable these illegal attacks to occur?
Those neighbours?

The UAE could’ve done much more with Iran but they’ve concentrated in building up huge piles of money and looking after themselves …

… which is why they’re not kicking off now.

 

[Ronsafc]

If you read further down you will se i highlighted 3 countries that had nothing to do with the attack and refused US to use their bases but they still attacked them.

 

[Ozzymac]

If you read further down you will se i highlighted 3 countries that had nothing to do with the attack and refused US to use their bases but they still attacked them.

OK...
Iran did not attack Armenia. Missiles hit the Armenian quarter in Tehran but they were fired by the Iraelis.
Iran did not "attack" Turkey however 3 of their missiles did enter Turkish airspace and were shot down
Iran did attack Cyprus. All the reports state that the attack on Akrotiri was because the Uk had allowed the USAF to land there.

 

[Ozzymac]

To further add to that. Is what Iran doing any different to Israel attacking anyone who allows hezbollah to operate from within?

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

We got over 800 years of coal underground which could be used short term but they won't, if the UN thinks it's ok for China and India then it should be ok for the UK.

Mate, I’m all for coal and it was criminal what Thatcher did in the 80s (I’m no fan of Scargill by the way) because with clean technology investment we could have used that coal. She wanted a scorched earth policy and communities suffered and its effects what you rightly highlight are still with us. However, as sad as it is for communities where I grew up in that boat has sailed.

It’s just common sense to invest in renewables for ou kids and grandkids and not being reliant on our energy needs by the whims of madman.

As aside organisations, such as Scottish Power, do put monies back into communities where they have interests. As example up in Northumberland, where they have turbines, they have recently helped funded new play areas and other stuff which a lot won’t see.

 

[Ronsafc]

OK...
Iran did not attack Armenia. Missiles hit the Armenian quarter in Tehran but they were fired by the Iraelis.
Iran did not "attack" Turkey however 3 of their missiles did enter Turkish airspace and were shot down
Iran did attack Cyprus. All the reports state that the attack on Akrotiri was because the Uk had allowed the USAF to land there.

Iran did attack Armenia hitting an airport, so because Turkey shot down the missiles heading to it country means they were not fired at them. That's a new one to me.

 

[Ronsafc]

Mate, I’m all for coal and it was criminal what Thatcher did in the 80s (I’m no fan of Scargill by the way) because with clean technology investment we could have used that coal. She wanted a scorched earth policy and communities suffered and its effects what you rightly highlight are still with us. However, as sad as it is for communities where I grew up in that boat has sailed.

It’s just common sense to invest in renewables for ou kids and grandkids and not being reliant on our energy needs by the whims of madman.

As aside organisations, such as Scottish Power, do put monies back into communities where they have interests. As example up in Northumberland, where they have turbines, they have recently helped funded new play areas and other stuff which a lot won’t see.

We need short-term mixes until smr are proven and up and running coal is a proven tech for now.

 

[Daz]

We need short-term mixes until smr are proven and up and running coal is a proven tech for now.

We are probably decades, at least, away from true renewable energy replacing fossil fuels so there has to be a balance.

For me, short to mid-term using our natural resources is sensible to bridge the gap. It keeps the costs down and lunatics like Trump starting wars will have less of an effect on our population financially.

Mid-term to longer, nuclear needs to be the way. Its not renewable due to the radioactive waste, but its sustainable, low carbon and produces no greenhouse gases. Issue is the cost of implementing it in the first place.

 

[flandersmackem]

I do know they attacked Armenia no American bases turkey, not involved, even Cyprus not involved,
They won't cripple the us as they will just drill baby drill and keep it for themselves even push for more oil quicker from Venezuela. Meanwhile in Europe stick head in sand that renewable will fix all problems.

"As of March 16, 2026, Armenia has not been targeted by Iranian drone strikes, according to regional reports"

This from Reuters.... Need to better research Ron

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

We need short-term mixes until smr are proven and up and running coal is a proven tech for now.

Sadly it would cost a fortune to reopen coal mines. There was millions of pounds of coal cutting equipment just abandoned thanks to the tories snd seams have long since flooded. Addressing those issues will cost a fortune. I think Ellington, the last put in Northumberland was 7 miles out to sea as example so with no pumping for 30 years it’s never going to be economical to start.

No one would like to see some coal mines opened more than me but I think the general consensus of people that worked in the industry is that the ship has long since sailed sadly.

Renewables for the environment and our kids futures and not being beholding to Saudis, ayatollahs, Trumps and Putins of this world is just common sense. However if coal could be mined cheaply and burnt environmentally efficiently this should also be considered with limited nuclear to support renewables.

 

[flandersmackem]

Because of the kiddy fiddler first term and now this clown show of a second term, the UK has some big thinking to do. Yes he will be gone soon, but you can bet another populist dictator wannabe will try again, only next time better prepared.
For me the UK should throw its lot with the EU. We are simply not big enough to go it alone. Together with the Likes of Germany, France, Spain Italy etc, we can stand up to the likes of Putin, Trump ( and his Ilk)....really hope there is another another vote on this soon.

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

Because of the kiddy fiddler first term and now this clown show of a second term, the UK has some big thinking to do. Yes he will be gone soon, but you can bet another populist dictator wannabe will try again, only next time better prepared.
For me the UK should throw its lot with the EU. We are simply not big enough to go it alone. Together with the Likes of Germany, France, Spain Italy etc, we can stand up to the likes of Putin, Trump ( and his Ilk)....really hope there is another another vote on this soon.

Why did Putin fund Brexit again?

The US is not an ally anymore we need to be closer to the EU without a doubt. The one thing I slightly agree with Trump, the European countries and us need to spend more on defence, in this very uncertain world.

 

[Ronsafc]

"As of March 16, 2026, Armenia has not been targeted by Iranian drone strikes, according to regional reports"

This from Reuters.... Need to better research Ron

Sky new must be wrong then as pictures were shown of bomb strikes on a civilian airport about a week to ten days ago

 

[Ronsafc]

Because of the kiddy fiddler first term and now this clown show of a second term, the UK has some big thinking to do. Yes he will be gone soon, but you can bet another populist dictator wannabe will try again, only next time better prepared.
For me the UK should throw its lot with the EU. We are simply not big enough to go it alone. Together with the Likes of Germany, France, Spain Italy etc, we can stand up to the likes of Putin, Trump ( and his Ilk)....really hope there is another another vote on this soon.

Will you want to throw your hat in with the EU when the right wing populist parties take over, looking at French local elections the right are taking more and more power. Also plenty of other countries going right

 

[flandersmackem]

Will you want to throw your hat in with the EU when the right wing populist parties take over, looking at French local elections the right are taking more and more power. Also plenty of other countries going right

Yes.... Inside the EU we can help manage.. This populist right wing bollocks is the "in thing" in politics right now. It won't last, Europe ...notwithstanding a few countries are pretty much centralist by nature. But I feel more comfortable in Europe than I ever would throwing my hat in the American ring