Off Topic WW3 How Close?

[Smug in Boots]

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The problems this country has in providing public services and generally looking after its' people.....its' primary function......are the result of decades of under-investment and the systematic failure to address the reallity of the future staring the various Govts.....of all persuasions....in the face. It's completely ridiculous to blame the current ills of this country on 14 years of Conservative Party rule.....as pathetic and horrendous as it was.....when the overall problems lie well before,which no party of any persuasion has addressed since the 60's.
Unfettered,uncatalogued and unplanned increase in the numbers of people arriving to settle here has resulted in a total breakdown of our society.
It wasn't great to start with.....for most,it's beyond miserable now.

It would be ridiculous which is why I avoided even suggesting that.

It would be equally ridiculous to totally excuse the ineptitude and chaos, of the last 14 years, on previous administrations.

Whatever the case my point was actually that, despite making such a poor job of things it's ironic that the Tories now claim to have all the answers ...

... just as they did 14 years ago.

Anyway, that's not really on topic so best if I leave it there.

 

[Brainy Dose]

It would be ridiculous which is why I avoided even suggesting that.

It would be equally ridiculous to totally excuse the ineptitude and chaos, of the last 14 years, on previous administrations.

Whatever the case my point was actually that, despite making such a poor job of things it's ironic that the Tories now claim to have all the answers ...

... just as they did 14 years ago.

Anyway, that's not really on topic so best if I leave it there.

I don't think any of them have the answers,mate...certainly not the Tories,or the Blair administration before that.....and none of them are prepared to take on the solutions! Successive administrations have ****ed us up.

 

[Smug in Boots]

I don't think any of them have the answers,mate...certainly not the Tories,or the Blair administration before that.....and none of them are prepared to take on the solutions! Successive administrations have ****ed us up.

There is no answer to the small boats other than targeting the gangs with the cooperation of France and the rest of Europe …

… once they’re in the Channel we’re screwed.

Floating barges or Rwanda isn’t going to deter people and sending in the Royal Navy isn’t possible, not to mention illegal …

… Farage has the answer, apparently, he just hasn’t told anyone what it is.

 

[Brainy Dose]

There is no answer to the small boats other than targeting the gangs with the cooperation of France and the rest of Europe …

… once they’re in the Channel we’re screwed.

Floating barges or Rwanda isn’t going to deter people and sending in the Royal Navy isn’t possible, not to mention illegal …

… Farage has the answer, apparently, he just hasn’t told anyone what it is.

If we were to pick them up 10 miles out of Calais.....not beyond our capability...... and escort them back....the message would soon get through to the Turks.

 

[Smug in Boots]

If we were to pick them up 10 miles out of Calais.....not beyond our capability...... and escort them back....the message would soon get through to the Turks.

Under maritime law that’s not possible and we can’t just pull up on French shores without their permission either …

… I know they did it in 1066 but they’ve changed the T&Cs since then

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

If we were to pick them up 10 miles out of Calais.....not beyond our capability...... and escort them back....the message would soon get through to the Turks.

The only place we’ll be escorting them is into social housing unfortunately.. but as we’ve all just been talking about accounting, she had to get it in right at the end.. also as long as I have a hole in my arse they won’t be building anywhere near 1.5m homes.

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[Smug in Boots]

The only place we’ll be escorting them is into social housing unfortunately.. but as we’ve all just been talking about accounting, she had to get it in right at the end.. also as long as I have a hole in my arse they won’t be building anywhere near 1.5m homes.

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Bigger or smaller percentage than Boris's 40 New Hospitals do you reckon?

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Bigger or smaller percentage than Boris's 40 New Hospitals do you reckon?

Think they’d announced 30 odd hospitals progressing last I saw, I only know that because I have one of them currently as a project however it’s not quite a brand new hospital more “major development and extension of existing”

A labour MP’s has just been on GMB claiming they’re about to start building the first 18,000 hopefully complete by the end of 2027, so at least they’re going to be over 1%!

 

[rooch 3]

Think they’d announced 30 odd hospitals progressing last I saw, I only know that because I have one of them currently as a project however it’s not quite a brand new hospital more “major development and extension of existing”

A labour MP’s has just been on GMB claiming they’re about to start building the first 18,000 hopefully complete by the end of 2027, so at least they’re going to be over 1%!

Didn’t think I’d ever say I feel sorry for Angela Raynor but it’s like watching rope a dope every time she appears on TV.

 

[Brainman]

This scary, hilarious and utterly incompetent. A journalust was invited to a group chat about Yemen by mistake by the National Security Advisor.

There are few US presidential actions more sensitive, more fraught with peril, than when and where to use American military force.

If such information were obtained by American adversaries in advance, it could put lives – and national foreign policy objectives - at risk.

Fortunately for the Trump administration, a group chat with information about an impending US strike in Yemen among senior national security officials on the encrypted chat app Signal did not fall into the wrong hands.

Unfortunately for the Trump administration, the message thread was observed by an influential political journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg.

That an outsider could inadvertently be added to sensitive national defence conversations represents a stunning failure of operational security by the Trump administration.

And that these conversations were taking place outside of secure government channels designed for such sensitive communications could violate the Espionage Act, which sets rules for handling classified information

 

[OldNewtown]

And that these conversations were taking place outside of secure government channels designed for such sensitive communications could violate the Espionage Act, which sets rules for handling classified information

Seem to recall Trump absolutely slaughtering Hilary Clinton for using insecure email.
Goose, gander, surely?
Trumps first response, slaughtering the journalist.
I would normally say that no one would be that stupid and that it was a deliberate leak to keep Europe unbalanced. But then again...

 

[gelders pie]

The only place we’ll be escorting them is into social housing unfortunately.. but as we’ve all just been talking about accounting, she had to get it in right at the end.. also as long as I have a hole in my arse they won’t be building anywhere near 1.5m homes.

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Every day when we think things can't get more unbelievable........
What other country would basically say '' break in to our country and we will build you a brand new house for nothing'' whilst our own people will still be told none for you , there's still a shortage, or if there is, you won't be able to afford it. Or here's an idea if we ''have to'' home them -- how about they give me the spanking new house with a garage and garden etc built amongst the green belt and the illegal can have my old two bed back to back terrace in a council neglected scruffy old pit village

 

[TonyG]

The U.K. has been and always will be 'relevant' in world affairs . . . . the whole world has virtually always respected our military expertise, including psychotic Putin, who will be very wary of our might in that respect

There's not much good about Starmer, but he seems to want to take a leading role in helping to defend Ukraine's right as a country to defend itself against current tyranny from the aggressors.

They see us as “The Main Bastards” as well which I think is a compliment.

 

[Evil Jimmy Krankie]

This scary, hilarious and utterly incompetent. A journalust was invited to a group chat about Yemen by mistake by the National Security Advisor.

There are few US presidential actions more sensitive, more fraught with peril, than when and where to use American military force.

If such information were obtained by American adversaries in advance, it could put lives – and national foreign policy objectives - at risk.

Fortunately for the Trump administration, a group chat with information about an impending US strike in Yemen among senior national security officials on the encrypted chat app Signal did not fall into the wrong hands.

Unfortunately for the Trump administration, the message thread was observed by an influential political journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg.

That an outsider could inadvertently be added to sensitive national defence conversations represents a stunning failure of operational security by the Trump administration.

And that these conversations were taking place outside of secure government channels designed for such sensitive communications could violate the Espionage Act, which sets rules for handling classified information

The cynic in me says that it wasn’t a mistake at all. It was planned. Not that I have any evidence to support this but neither do I have any that says it was a mistake.

 

[Smug in Boots]

The cynic in me says that it wasn’t a mistake at all. It was planned. Not that I have any evidence to support this but neither do I have any that says it was a mistake.

Trump seems to operate the same ‘chaos and confusion’ routine as Boris did …

… when everything is followed up by denials and accusations of ‘fake news’ it becomes impossible to know wtf is the truth.

Once they start blaming AI and the Chinese we’re screwed.

 

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Trump seems to operate the same ‘chaos and confusion’ routine as Boris did …

… when everything is followed up by denials and accusations of ‘fake news’ it becomes impossible to know wtf is the truth.

Once they start blaming AI and the Chinese we’re screwed.

We took the *correct* course of action in cancelling the Huawaei 5G rollout and we’re still removing their network to do this day because of potential espionage vulnerabilities, cost a bloody fortune too and pushed back the rollout of 5G considerably. I believe the Yanks also took those steps a few years later so they’ll have to find someone else to blame!

 

[Blond Bombshell]

We took the *correct* course of action in cancelling the Huawaei 5G rollout and we’re still removing their network to do this day because of potential espionage vulnerabilities, cost a bloody fortune too and pushed back the rollout of 5G considerably. I believe the Yanks also took those steps a few years later so they’ll have to find someone else to blame!

I liked my old Huawaei P20 phone, back to Samsung now as Huawaei barred from 5G and Google. Hopefully the pathetic Yanks don't blame Samsung next...

 

[vic9]

Didn’t think I’d ever say I feel sorry for Angela Raynor but it’s like watching rope a dope every time she appears on TV.

She’s just not very good mate,our working class lass in her new founded and funded ivory tower,fcuking hypocrite

 

[Smug in Boots]

She’s just not very good mate,our working class lass in her new founded and funded ivory tower,fcuking hypocrite

Yep, just like that Liz Truss woman we had forced on us, absolutely useless.

 

[Blond Bombshell]

Yep, just like that Liz Truss woman we had forced on us, absolutely useless.

The cabbage crashed our economy... what's the hypocritical working class lass in her ivory tower actually done? She seems to have really upset some people.