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O.k. TWO players kept you from a hiding yesterday. You know who, and your goalkeeper. Doesn't say much for the rest of them, does it?
 
RVP's at the centre of everything good for Arsenal this season. Whether another has a good game which assists him isn't really important because their form has been patchy.

Not trying to get involved in this argument, just giving my two cents :)
 
Ammaar said:
Except I wasn't talking about yesterday, I was talking about the season as a whole.

But since you want to talk about yesterday - Szczsney, Sagna and van Persie were our three best players that stood out more than anyone on that pitch yesterday. Arsenal were poor - I can accept that. Liverpool outclassed and dominated us - I can accept that. We were fortunate - I can accept that.

However, were it not for two fantastic balls from Sagna and Song, van Persie would not have scored yesterday. And Suarez dived for that penalty.

How can any team be a one man team? Surely - that defeats the purpose of having a team?

You have not proven any of my comments to be delusional. Sorry.
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Come off it. Yes, Sagna's pass was not bad. However, the goal was scored by RVP's sharpness in getting in front of Carragher. The second had very little to do with the pass. It was nothing more than a masterclass in finishing from RVP. Neither one of those goals would have been scored by anybody but a finisher of RVP's class. Which is exactly my point. Your reliance on his skill at finishing is extremely high. If you think there's any way that any other striker you have, let alone bloody Bendtner would have scored either of those two goals, then yes, you are delusional!
 
Ammaar said:
Except I wasn't talking about yesterday, I was talking about the season as a whole.

But since you want to talk about yesterday - Szczsney, Sagna and van Persie were our three best players that stood out more than anyone on that pitch yesterday. Arsenal were poor - I can accept that. Liverpool outclassed and dominated us - I can accept that. We were fortunate - I can accept that.

However, were it not for two fantastic balls from Sagna and Song, van Persie would not have scored yesterday. And Suarez dived for that penalty.

How can any team be a one man team? Surely - that defeats the purpose of having a team?

You have not proven any of my comments to be delusional. Sorry.
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Not getting into this argument,but an awful lot of people say Maradona was the greatest ever,for one reason.He carried Napoli and Argentina to winning their prospective trophys.Just a thought!
 
because the way we played against Arsenal is the worst I've seen us for a long, long time. We never played that badly under Ramos, and that's saying something![/QUOTE]
 
NowsufferinginSpain said:
Contender for most stupid comment? Of course you're virtually totally reliant on RVP, the figures don't lie. Out of 55 goals you've scored this season, he has scored 31 of them! Way more than half of ALL your goals!!
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Arsenal 5 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur

Sagna 40’
van Persie 43’
Rosický 51’
Walcott 65’, 68’

yeah real one man team eh ?

even sagna can score against you dross goalie , another 3 past him today wasnt it ?
 
Ammaar said:
Van Persie, Walcott, Gervinho, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Gibbs, Sagna, Santos, Rosicky, Chamakh, Oxlade Chamberlain, Arteta, Song, Ramsey and Park Chu-Young have all scored for us this season. That's 15 different goalscorers. You are making it sound as if we only have one player to score all of our goals for us and are ignoring how effective other players for us have been.

There is a awful lot of hyperbole in your posts - if we had Park Chu-Young or Bendtner, for example, playing in the lone centre forward role, I would still fully expect either player to score a substantial amount of goals. Why? Because they would be our target man who's main function is to score the most goals for a team. I would not expect either to score 30+ goals because neither have the technique or finesse which van Persie is well endowed with, but I would still expect them to score a reasonable amount of goals nonetheless.

You're still not giving our other players' credit for their performances and their assists, in helping van Persie's goal tally go up to 31 this season.

We know we need better back-up options for van Persie and we know we rely on van Persie too much for our goals and we need more players chipping in, but van Persie is doing his job as a centre forward, divinely. Hopefully this situation will be sorted out in the Summer. What does irk me though is people constantly disregarding the telling assistance of all our other players and how we've collaborated as a strong attacking team. Song, Arteta, Rosicky, Szczsney, Koscielny, Vermaelen etc don't get near enough credit from rival fans.

All you're doing is proving my point.

If Spurs' utilized a system where they played only one man in attack, then maybe you would understand the primary role of a centre forward and the significance of their contribution to the team. But this is basic football knowledge. If you do not understand the role of a centre forward a la van Persie, then you do not know much about football.
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A simple formula for you: AFC- RVP = NO CL

Without him you are mid table at best.
 
Ammaar said:
I think you are a good poster and you seem like a nice guy, so I'll assume you wrote this out of sheer bitterness for losing your last two games because I refuse to believe you are genuinely thick enough to write something like that in a normal frame of mind.
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Play the bitterness card, rather than consider the fact he may be onto something...

Chamakh and Bendtner are unable to score 31 goals a season, which Van Persie has done thus far. They might be able to do so between the two of them (although it's more likely they'd amass a total in the high teens/low twenties), which still leaves you around ten goals short of what he's scored - and you wouldn't feel as confident with either of them in the same scoring positions as Van Persie, would you?

Whilst Man Utd were labelled a one-man team because of their reliance on Cristiano Ronaldo, they still had other players you could rely on to score important goals (like Scholes, Park Ji-sung, Giggs, et al), which isn't the case with Arsenal this season.
 
gunner.b.allright said:
Arsenal 5 - 2 Tottenham Hotspur

Sagna 40’
van Persie 43’
Rosický 51’
Walcott 65’, 68’

yeah real one man team eh ?

even sagna can score against you dross goalie , another 3 past him today wasnt it ?
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this is why your opinion is meaningless...you think one match makes a season.....good luck with that philosophy
 
Ammaar said:
''We know we need better back-up options for van Persie and we know we rely on van Persie too much for our goals and we need more players chipping in, but van Persie is doing his job as a centre forward, divinely. Hopefully this situation will be sorted out in the Summer.'

Making comments like ''AFC-RVP = No CL football'' is not constructive and not debating, especially when it's based on nothing factual and is supposition.
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I came in at the point you said that someone that pointed out more than half your teams' goals were scored by one player knew nothing about football - that's not constructive, nor is it debate.
 
Ammaar said:
(1) You have one man, and one man only, to thank for your current league position!
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Not an unreasonable observation by any means. A couple of times in our recent history we've been reliant on one source of goals - Klinsmann in 94-5, the Berbatov/Keane partnership between 2006-8 - which saw us finish higher than we would have without them, as proven by our performances when they left.

(2) When he gets injured, which is inevitable, they'll be exposed for the pile of mediocre ****e that they are.
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Without Van Persie, who is going to score the goals? The phrasing may be a little off, but can you honestly say Chamakh will take up the slack?

(3)If you seriously think he can be so easily replaced by a lazy donkey, like Bendtner, you're even more deluded than your loopy manager.
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And this is true. Bendtner might replace him on the team sheet, but wouldn't replace Van Persie in any way, shape, or form. And you can't pretend Wenger hasn't lost the plot, as he's continuously failed to address problems in your squad - an issue exacerbated by Van Persie digging you out of trouble.
 
gooner's saying we're a one man team is like the pot calling the kettle black,take out rvp and his goals and they'd be relegation candidates,take out any one of our team we'd still be in the top4
 
Ammaar said:
I think you are a good poster and you seem like a nice guy, so I'll assume you wrote this out of sheer bitterness for losing your last two games because I refuse to believe you are genuinely thick enough to write something like that in a normal frame of mind.
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Why do you always seem to think that anybody who speaks the plain truth, or disagrees with your warped, deluded, slant on reality, is thick, or knows nothing??
 
Making comments like ''AFC-RVP = No CL football'' is not constructive and not debating, especially when it's based on nothing factual and is supposition.


A perfectly valid comment. Without RVP and his goals, you wouldn't even have a sniff of CL football at the moment!
 
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