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2020VisionofLeeds said:
Yes but why are you obsessed with this subject? Why not a vicar or an archaeologist or a statistician? Why am imman.

And you've missed my point - the bus driver did not see it start either. We don't know how it started.

Actually that was only one of several points I made and you've missed all of them.

I actually think you've got a problem. Start reading sources that don't just tell you what you already believe.
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The point I'm making which you loony left are ignoring is,if it was a right wing guy following shouting abuse,you would be saying lock the racist up,because its the other way around,its ok and the guy being verbally attacked,its his fault <doh> the law should be the same for all.<doh>
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
The point I'm making which you loony left are ignoring is,if it was a right wing guy following shouting abuse,you would be saying lock the racist up,because its the other way around,its ok and the guy being verbally attacked,its his fault <doh> the law should be the same for all.<doh>
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That's not true

It's simply wrong

the guy TR beat up may be an ultra right winger by the way, we don't know who he is, TR is a minor public figure (like it or not) and that's the only reason this is not just another couple of people misbehaving at what used to be a classy event

You are just making stuff up here
 
2020VisionofLeeds said:
That's not true

It's simply wrong

the guy TR beat up may be an ultra right winger by the way, we don't know who he is, TR is a minor public figure (like it or not) and that's the only reason this is not just another couple of people misbehaving at what used to be a classy event

You are just making stuff up here
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And yet the whole post and discussion is about the TR guy somehow being out of order,why aren't we discussing say loony lefties attack TR again ?
 
2020VisionofLeeds said:
Does not matter, the point is right now you have no idea you are just raising one thing after another to make the debate something other than the fact that TR had a fight at Ascot. That does not happen to 99.99% of the people who go there
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Thought not <laugh> 99.99%of people don't get attacked regularly,he does because he refuses to cow down to the lefty nutters.
 
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Could this thread be archived somewhere ? politics and religion should not be discussed in polite company, am I assuming a lot here ..............

Anyway only a few weeks before we can discuss real issues again..............
 
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2020VisionofLeeds said:
Yes but why are you obsessed with this subject? Why not a vicar or an archaeologist or a statistician? Why am imman.

And you've missed my point - the bus driver did not see it start either. We don't know how it started.

Actually that was only one of several points I made and you've missed all of them.

I actually think you've got a problem. Start reading sources that don't just tell you what you already believe.
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Maybe "likewise" may be an appropriate word 2020......:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
2020VisionofLeeds said:
Do you not realise MSM is used as a term by the people who wish to divert people from using relatively objective sources and ensure they use perverted sources instead.

The term 'MSM' is itself a perversion of the truth, as it implies a monolithic group of media who all push a similar agenda. Yet it includes a complete range of opinion - the Guardian hardly equates to the Daily Telegraph or the Express, for example.

And take the 'biased' BBC. It's also interesting that supporters of Jeremy Corbyn think the BBC is continuously biased against him, yet you have the mad Andrea Leadsom accusing them of lacking patriotism. Others complain they allow people like Tommy R airtime on serious news programmes ....... so are they a biased left wing / right wing organisation (pick your prejudice) or they getting it roughly right? I know what I think

All media outlets have an editorial stance, or bias. If you get your news from alt right websites and you tube videos you are not going to get a balanced picture.

maybe some people feel more comfortable just hearing what they want to hear. Personally I like to read a range - I read articles from the Express, Telegraph, Fox News, Daily Mail every day, but also Times, New York Times, Guardian, Independent - as well as the usual TV channels.

Gives me a better chance of spotting spin if I read a few articles on the same subject - for example, the recent Grenfell fire and the Express trying to make out it was due to the EU. I'd recommend the same approach to anyone, read stuff from people you don't naturally agree with as well as those you do
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So you digest varied and different sources of information in order to arrive at your conclusion.

In short, it's a matter of opinion then......:emoticon-0148-yes:
 
LeedsLover said:
So you digest varied and different sources of information in order to arrive at your conclusion.

In short, it's a matter of opinion then......:emoticon-0148-yes:
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Yes it's all opinion LL <doh>

Opinion based on either:

1. Sourced from a widespread range of viewpoints likely to help someone arrive at a balanced position
Or
2. Sourced from a few publications that agree with you plus done weird websites of the alt right
 
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LeedsLover said:
Once again we see you trying to turn things around to suit your own obsessive agenda, and once again, you show your weakness.

Seems to me your obsessive hatred knows no bounds and, like most of the MSM, you don't want to post the truth. I suggest you watch the youtube vids below.

None of it is racism, you also claim the British national Anthem is racist......:emoticon-0136-giggl

Anyone like Tommy Robinson, who is prepared to stand up for, and defend his country is not racist. The only racism going on are those who want to rid the world of all other faiths and non believers.
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I'm not the one that's obsessive, Leedsloser!

Oh, and I see that you can actually respond to my posts, but oddly enough, it's only when you have some more of your racist guff to promote. What happened your standard responses, which appear to suggest that you have an anal bestiality fixation?

Why should I reply to your treatises when you don't do me the courtesy of responding to mine?

Would you prefer if I posted a picture of an animals bum so you can go have a tug over it?

I think my responses have already been posted by 2020, and very sensible and objective they are too.

Funny how Tommy the Tit had the bus drivers name come up when the driver called him, eh?
Funny how the driver wouldn't allow him on the bus & he had to make his own way home, eh?
Funny how the bus driver stated clearly in the newspaper that he didn't see who threw the first punch, yet your 'analyst' effectively claims that it was the other guy.
Funny how we saw Tommy the Tit keep laying into the guy when he was totally defenceless.
Funny how we don't see the other guy lay one punch.
Defending himself? I don't think so.
He's simply underlining the fact that he's the thug that he always has been.
And you fell for it. Again.
Totally indefensible behaviour on his part. And yours. <doh>
 
lifecheshirewhite said:
Only surprise to me,is it took him so long before he defended his family against an abusive drunk.And the paper just happened to be filming ? Looks like a set up,probably paid the drunk to do it.
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Usual Chesh. Why use facts when fantasy tells a better story.

His family were already on the bus, so no need to 'defend' them.
How do you know he was abusive? It could well be that the chap was saying things that Tommy the Tit didn't want to hear - which makes it abusive to him, and the truth to other people. Note that I say 'could have', 'cos I don't know - and more to the point, neither do you!
The paper was filming? Mwahahaha! Another lie to defend him. It was the dash cam on the bus that was running. Why invent the newspaper camera nonsense?
A set-up? Pul-ease! Not a shred of evidence for it, have you? Even if it was a setup, it was still mindless thuggery.

You're really struggling to defend this thug. Imagine Wayne Rooney laid into you for calling him a useless twat. Would that be ok?
 
Without getting into the rights and wrongs ( i easily could) it is clear that something is going to have to be dine to restore some order on here. Things seem to be getting completely out of hand. Some if the stuff being posted is borderline illegal... Just sayin........
 
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