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Ok, semantics. You say you would respect them, which therefore means their treatment of women, children, LGBT's etc, and to the point, including when it happens here in the UK. I very much doubt that's what you really meant. You are not on your own, most people are utterly lost with their hypocrisy, mixed messages, double standards, inability or unwillingness to see what's happening on their doorstep but instead feel it ok (or easier) to tell other distant countries how to live.
OP - we need to make up our minds.

You really have missed the key part of my message. I said I would respect them (to live their lives) as long as they respected other peoples right to live their lives.

Obviously, that doesn’t include treating people who don’t believe in Islam however they want, as that isn’t respectful is it?
 
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Just watching a feed online as I’m in Trinidad right now, but the female commentator just said, “he’s there to play those cute little balls forward.”
It just sounded wrong.:emoticon-0140-rofl:
 
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You really have missed the key part of my message. I said I would respect them (to live their lives) as long as they respected other peoples right to live their lives.

Obviously, that doesn’t include treating people who don’t believe in Islam however they want, as that isn’t respectful is it?

You didn't say anything about that new added bit in bold!!
You said "It depends on how you approach it I guess. If you are respectful I highly doubt you’d be called Islamophobic. I would respect someone who told me I don’t agree with the way you live your life, but I will defend your right to live it."

Even so, you are still posting that you respect them for a way of life that includes their treatment of women, children, LBGT etc etc.

Anyway, enough. Let's focus on football, and perhaps wish that we gave more attention (and meaningful action) first to what happens in our country rather than countries thousands of miles away.
 
Just watching a feed online as I’m in Trinidad right now, but the female commentator just said, “he’s there to play those cute little balls forward.”
It just sounded wrong.:emoticon-0140-rofl:

A commentator said earlier that in the second half Saudi Arabia were now attacking their fans behind the goal. You know what he meant to say but it did conjure up an interesting image.
 
You didn't say anything about that new added bit in bold!!
You said "It depends on how you approach it I guess. If you are respectful I highly doubt you’d be called Islamophobic. I would respect someone who told me I don’t agree with the way you live your life, but I will defend your right to live it."

Even so, you are still posting that you respect them for a way of life that includes their treatment of women, children, LBGT etc etc.

Anyway, enough. Let's focus on football, and perhaps wish that we gave more attention (and meaningful action) first to what happens in our country rather than countries thousands of miles away.

If you say it was a bit naughty of a Muslim to blow up a shopping centre full of families you will get accused of .Islamophobia.
 
You didn't say anything about that new added bit in bold!!
You said "It depends on how you approach it I guess. If you are respectful I highly doubt you’d be called Islamophobic. I would respect someone who told me I don’t agree with the way you live your life, but I will defend your right to live it."

Even so, you are still posting that you respect them for a way of life that includes their treatment of women, children, LBGT etc etc.

Did you miss the last part of this sentence?

I would respect someone who told me I don’t agree with the way you live your life, but I will defend your right to live it.
 
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Is just me, or is that gorgeous girl on the left (top picture obviously)the same one that KC circle had as his avatar.

If so, she's a plastic, as she was wearing Brazilian kit in that one.
 
But that’s not the same thing. As I said in this thread about the exact same point earlier, campaigning AGAINST someone’s rights is not the same as protesting FOR someone’s rights.

One is supportive, one isnt.

For what it's worth, it is projection to assert they're protesting "against someone's rights." They don't believe those rights exist in the first place, such that this issue isn't about rights. Any discussion or negotiation with them must start there.
 
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The second picture is a relief. Some men might have been driven into a lustful frenzy by the sight of that uncovered hair.
 
Germans say "Multiple sporting sanctions" were threatened against countries whose teams wore the "One love" armband (Not just yellow cards)

The DFB's media director Steffen Simon told German Deutschlandfunk radio that England, who had been the first team to be expected to wear it on Monday in their game against Iran, had been threatened with multiple sporting sanctions.

"The tournament director went to the English team and talked about multiple rule violations and threatened with massive sporting sanctions without specifying what these would be," he said.

Simon, who did not specify if he was referring to local organisers or FIFA in his reference to the tournament director, said the other six nations then decided to "show solidarity" and not wear it.

"We lost the armband and it is very painful but we are the same people as before with the same values. We are not impostors who claim they have values and then betray them," he said.
 
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Germans say "Multiple sporting sanctions" were threatened against countries whose teams wore the "One love" armband (Not just yellow cards)

The DFB's media director Steffen Simon told German Deutschlandfunk radio that England, who had been the first team to be expected to wear it on Monday in their game against Iran, had been threatened with multiple sporting sanctions.

"The tournament director went to the English team and talked about multiple rule violations and threatened with massive sporting sanctions without specifying what these would be," he said.

Simon, who did not specify if he was referring to local organisers or FIFA in his reference to the tournament director, said the other six nations then decided to "show solidarity" and not wear it.

"We lost the armband and it is very painful but we are the same people as before with the same values. We are not impostors who claim they have values and then betray them," he said.

The Iranian players who refused to sing their anthem, and their families, in support of those being treated badly by the regime, showed far more courage despite the possible consequences.