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moreinjuredthanowen said:
we did cos we lost to belgium.

we tried not to it seems but we did.

i predicted 2nd in group and the route to Qf and it happened. what was not predicted was germany being so poor and opening up our seciton of draw.


every team had desire to win.

2006 team had desire to win. sometimes **** happens sometimes the ball hits the cross bar and you progress.

our pens were all good bar hendersons. pickford saved one. they had an even smaller keeper in goal etc etc.

every side tried their damnest i nthis world up. there were tears everywhere.... all but one have to lose some where.

all i am saying is lets not make out these are world beaters or special. they are delivering on the big stage but all games thus far would be routing qualifier win.

I think croatia can be beaten. I'd give a 50/50 chance maybe even 60/40 right now based on fitness.

france is a whole other level and becomes a real world cup final stages quality game. it would be epic just to be in it
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This squad is no better man for man than the squads of 1990 or 1996 and 2006.

But it looks to be a team, one based on working for each other (like France) and having individuals who can win a game
 
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PJS - BACK AND BOSSING IT said:
This squad is no better man for man than the squads of 1990 or 1996 and 2006.

But it looks to be a team, one based on working for each other (like France) and having individuals who can win a game
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Its a lot worse IMO.

I think it needs to be tested to says its working for each other rather than pissing through easier games frankly.

Must be said. Colombia was hardest test and they just kicked lumps out of england having lost james. They blew their chance playing the game that way and it was gleefully accepted yet it still ended up at pens.

Yes France displayed a team ethic last night and real discipline to execute a game plan.

IMo about the only players who would make to 2006 team would be

pickford - robinson was in goal in 2006.
Kane - maybe.. michael owen played up front for england, crouch too.
MAYBE someone would take the left wing slow as that was weak.


England had the back 4 nevile ferdinand terry cole, midfield beckham gerrad lampard cole, up front crouch owen

none of them would get in in 1996. who would you drop for them there?

1990 is linekere etc etc. again struggling to think.

This is the thing about going further in the tournament. national heros are being made... but that won't turn walker in to any more of a CB will it. RWB is his position. It won't stop man city moving stones on cos he is error prone. It won't stop jimmy saying henderson should be replaced
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Its a lot worse IMO.

I think it needs to be tested to says its working for each other rather than pissing through easier games frankly.

Must be said. Colombia was hardest test and they just kicked lumps out of england having lost james. They blew their chance playing the game that way and it was gleefully accepted yet it still ended up at pens.

Yes France displayed a team ethic last night and real discipline to execute a game plan.

IMo about the only players who would make to 2006 team would be

pickford - robinson was in goal in 2006.
Kane - maybe.. michael owen played up front for england, crouch too.
MAYBE someone would take the left wing slow as that was weak.


England had the back 4 nevile ferdinand terry cole, midfield beckham gerrad lampard cole, up front crouch owen

none of them would get in in 1996. who would you drop for them there?

1990 is linekere etc etc. again struggling to think.

This is the thing about going further in the tournament. national heros are being made... but that won't turn walker in to any more of a CB will it. RWB is his position. It won't stop man city moving stones on cos he is error prone. It won't stop jimmy saying henderson should be replaced
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As I said, I don't think any of the players in this squad would make 1990, 1996 or 2006 sides. But at this time they have equaled or surpassed those sides.

The game against Colombia was a real test, one little slip by Henderson who reacted to the provocation dished out but I can forgive him that. For players at club level, im not sure what relevance that has as at this time they are a club side at International level (not just players thrown together)
 
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PJS - BACK AND BOSSING IT said:
As I said, I don't think any of the players in this squad would make 1990, 1996 or 2006 sides. But at this time they have equaled or surpassed those sides.

The game against Colombia was a real test, one little slip by Henderson who reacted to the provocation dished out but I can forgive him that. For players at club level, im not sure what relevance that has as at this time they are a club side at International level (not just players thrown together)
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when you are wining this all sounds great.

Go out and then all the same not together, divisions in camp stuff would come out.

For me i'm sure we could hear the same guff the day of the QF in 2006.

Its only after when rio ferdinand etc admitted stupidly what they were at that it really became the excuse


For me the tournament starts now. Great draw, did the job, scraped by colobia who were shameful, sweden was a dolly of a QF and they did the job then.

After croatia tore into argentina they looked good but since they have looked good in possession but with little cutting edge and right now they should be tired, their forwards suit england style and their set peice tactics don't look capable of stopping england.

Great chance here.
 
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