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Winter transfer window

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Washysafc, Oct 14, 2024.

  1. TopCat.

    TopCat. Well-Known Member

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    Tend to agree (doing way too much of that right now :emoticon-0102-bigsm). Patterson has not progressed like we hoped he would, in some areas he’s getting worse. I’d cash in next month
     
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  2. Pontsafc

    Pontsafc Active Member

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    He does not command his box, which for me is a must.
     
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  3. Southern A

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    you’d rather have Barry on loan for the left wing, than Jack Clarke?
     
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  4. Southern A

    Southern A Well-Known Member

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    yeh this is what I want.

    Makes me absolutely livid that we have Poveda a 3 year deal mind. Literally the whole footballing world was like “eh?” when it happened and so far it’s proving true.
     
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  5. ROKER PARK

    ROKER PARK Well-Known Member

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    So, Negative Nelly here. Are we signing injured players or those who are not match fit at the end of the window?
     
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  6. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    For those sating cash in on Patto and that he doesn't "command his box"

    Can you offer some keepers that do command their box and do everything you hope our keeper can do. Preferably ones at the top of their game so I can see what the finished article is meant to be
     
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  7. Prehab26

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    I mean stokes keeper was available all summer for 1m. I would immediately swap him for Patterson. Said so during the summer too.
     
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  8. Southern A

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    yeh that was insane he went to Stoke so early in the window. You’d have expected most of the championship to wait him.
     
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  9. Chunksafc

    Chunksafc Well-Known Member

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    That's one, who in my opinion was a hell of a shot stopper but didn't command his area
     
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  10. Southern A

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    I’m in no “rush” to sell Patterson but I think if a premier league club is willing to give us £10m for him there is plenty we can do with that money to improve the squad all round.
     
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  11. Southern A

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    I’ll add that selling academy players for £10m+ is all part of what being a sustainable club is.
     
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  12. Nads

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  13. TheBronzeBummer

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    I really don't get the Patto to a big club talk, simply due to his distribution.

    Young should really stay where he is, next summer could be perfect for the lad. He seems to have the minerals.

    We definitely need another winger who can preferably play both sides if needs be. Which is a big ask.
     
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  14. Scout73

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    Noone said we need to sign the finished article though. Nothing wrong with folk saying they would sell Patterson, we could get good money for him and it wouldn't cost a load to sign someone as good - or slightly better than him. The rest of the money can then be used to strengthen the squad

    I don't mind Patterson but imo he hasn't kicked on the last couple of years, his kicking is poor (not as bad as some make out but it's still poor), he is too slow off his line and this impacts his ability to command his box

    Cooper at Sheff Utd, Johansson at Stoke and even Vigouroux were all signed for a fraction of the cost that we would get for Patterson - they've all performed better than him this season
     
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  15. Southern A

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    it’s why I wouldn’t be against “cashing in” if somebody bids £10m+. I think to an extent they’d be buying potential. I don’t THINK he goes on to be a first choice premier league keeper, myself. He’s good at this level. But we can get a good keeper at this level for £3m.
     
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  16. Nads

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    Was that Stoke keeper the one that was at Rotherham?

    Was baffling he was at Rotherham even when they were championship he was cracking keeper from the off.

    We sold Picky to the PL he was light years ahead of Patto. Mind 3 times the dollar as well.
     
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  17. Southern A

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    For all Stoke do wrong, getting a good contract offer to Johansson early in the window whilst all the other clubs went on holiday, was a masterstroke.
     
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  18. Chunksafc

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    Again, which keeper commands the box like Patto gets pelters for?

    Remind me of a keep that comes of his line and commands the box that wee could afford?

    It's a lazy accusation imo
     
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  19. Scout73

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    Just because you don't agree with doesn't mean it's a lazy accusation, he is slow to come off his line and this impacts his ability to command his box

    I'm not going to comment on other GKs, I watch Patterson more than any other GK so I can have an opinion on what I feel his strengths and weaknesses are rather than just being accused of making a lazy assumption

    Patterson isn't as good as some make out and he isn't as bad as others make out. He is a top 10 GK in the league but if we were to get good money for him I would take it
     
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  20. Southern A

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    exactly this, well put. It’s why I don’t think we should be desperate to improve on him, but if somebody wants to offer us more than he’s worth to us, we should absolutely consider taking it.
     
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