Well aren’t potters supposed to be good with clay?
Will Still appointed as manager
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Other than what has posted here , not too familiar qith him. Seems to me that SR would be putting alot of faith in someone who has got his experience in FM , managed at a level in France which is probably lower Championship at best and is still only 32. In my opinion, he needs experience in English football before Saints can take a punt.
Granted that this is far more of a sensible forum that Daily Echo comments but i would rather go for a more experienced coach who can sort this rabble out.
Yeah but look at Brighton. Hurzeler is only 32 and had no experience in English football before joining them. TBH he probably had less experience than Still. I'd much rather we went down this ambitious route than appointing a dinosaur like Warnock.
I'm sort of with you. I would be 100% against it in the Premier League (which begs the question what happens if we get promoted), but in the Championship it isn't so critical
Tom
It is surely not an 'either /or' scenario. I would like someone with experience but thst does not mean they have to be in their 70s. Just need a steady disciplinarian in charge and not 'the next Graham Potter.' I just find Will Still really eccentric. Reims are not a big club and nor are Lens although the latter have made some achievements.
As i said, we need someone in the mould of Strachan.
Btw...Brighton have erratic this season.
Well, we beat Man Utd, so I think any outside chance he'd get sacked went when we hit 40pts.
Don't get me wrong, I wanted Rohl and I still want Rohl, and would far prefer him to Still. You're right in saying that Reims aren't a big club, which makes going 17 games unbeaten with them at the start of his time there even more impressive. The FM thing is overstated - he just said that playing that a lot made him realise he wanted to be a manager.
He'd be a risk, but I'm not that fussed. Again, the benefit of someone like him being coach over an obvious isn't the year in the Championship, it's if we get back to the PL we're doing so (like with Rohl) with a manager that has a far higher ceiling than one of the obvious types. It gives us a slight potential positive differential, which you need plenty of if you're to stand any chance of staying up.
It's fairly pointless employing an obvious, going up, coming straight back down again. Rinse and repeat.
If we got promoted with Will Still , i would still see us needing to upgrade once in the PL.
My gut feeling is that he may indeed be a potentially brilliant manager but i could envisage this kind of appointment being a disaster. Would rather have someone with exerience .
This is the thing though, we don't know if we'd need to upgrade on Still or Rohl. We do know we'd need to with one of the obvious.
Personally I find this a bit thinking ahead too much. Of course you have to plan ahead but ultimately the primary goal right now is to get promoted from the championship and that's where the focus should be.
If with manager A then we're 70-80% confident they'll get us promoted but only 20-30% they'll be good enough for PL and with manager B we're 50% in each we should go with manager A.
Focus on the job in hand and then if we make it up and earn the money associated then re-assess.
Obviously I know it's not quite as simple as this but there's no point trying to be clever with thinking who might be more suited to the PL if they're not going to get you there.
Understood. But suspect SR may be more aligned with my thoughts. Rightly or wrongly.
Agreed. If feels like taking a gamble to then take another gamble. The chances of them both working I would suggest are slim.
Very few managers in recent years have achieved both promotion and survival. It's a huge ask, and it's getting harder. Those who have achieved it - the likes of Silva, Dyche and Bielsa - did so as experienced managers.
As you say, just focus on the job in hand.
Yeah I suspect you might be right too. It's a bigger potential upside for sure I just think it might be another case of trying to be too clever.
It will be interesting anyway, can't wait for next season!
The PL survival aspect of this process would appear to be much less about who is at the helm of the team but how who is at the helm of the club deals with PSR. It is now abundantly clear that what teams hoped would shackle City and Newcastle, has in fact made investing in a promoted squad practically impossible. Teams will need to "Do a Forest" and suck up the points deductions in order to stay up.
Anyway, to stay on topic:
Rohl - Gamble
Still - Gamble
Cooper - Promotion contenders
Wilder - Promotion contenders
Farke - Promtion contenders
Warnock - Promotion contenders
Benitez - Promotion contenders
Parker - Promotion certainty
I mention the current Championship trio as Farke is likely under the microscope with the new owners, Parker has huge previous with owners at this exact moment in a club's promotion journey and Wilder will also be under scrutiny from new owners if he fails at Wembley.
If you were Solak, had his cheque book and had laser focus on promotion, why would you be looking at Rohl or Still in this position?
Anyway, to stay on topic:
Rohl - Gamble
Still - Gamble
Cooper - Promotion contenders
Wilder - Promotion contenders
Farke - Promtion contenders
Warnock - Promotion contenders
Benitez - Promotion contenders
Parker - Promotion certainty
I mention the current Championship trio as Farke is likely under the microscope with the new owners, Parker has huge previous with owners at this exact moment in a club's promotion journey and Wilder will also be under scrutiny from new owners if he fails at Wembley.
If you were Solak, had his cheque book and had laser focus on promotion, why would you be looking at Rohl or Still in this position?
Because any of the others you're going to sack at the end of the season, possibly bar Benitez.
Warnock? Do me a favour.
And I'd say Rohl - Promotion contenders
They're not going to employ someone knowing they'll be sacking them at the end of the season. For cost as much as anything.
Also, look at Spors' latest interview. He wants to build a club based around high energy, pressing football (which we're all delighted by). That would discount half of your list.
TBH - unless we recruited an absolute dud, we should be promotion contenders.
TBH - unless we recruited an absolute dud, we should be promotion contenders.
Apparently some report from France says that Will Still doesn’t want the Southampton job. Think they’ve come to this conclusion as he’s organised a pre season training camp for Lens at St George’s Park etc, with a couple of friendlies.