Well done...

[AlRawdah]

Unbelievable. I changed channels just before half time to watch the start of the race. I've seen dozens of fires in F1 but that explosion was something else. Deathly silence in my house until we saw a dazed Grosjean sat in the back of the medical car, somehow alive. Then came the footage of him sat in a fireball having gone through the barrier leaving half his car behind, freeing himself and jumping over the barrier, it's amazing he's still here.

I wasn't a fan of the halo but it's undoubtedly saved a life today.

Very true. It is remarkable that he walked away from a car that disintegrated around him. Contrast this with Martin Donnelly’s crash in 1990, where he survived but very much didn’t walk away. Googling that crash is not for the faint hearted.

 

[Qatartiger Cambridgetiger]

Unbelievable. I changed channels just before half time to watch the start of the race. I've seen dozens of fires in F1 but that explosion was something else. Deathly silence in my house until we saw a dazed Grosjean sat in the back of the medical car, somehow alive. Then came the footage of him sat in a fireball having gone through the barrier leaving half his car behind, freeing himself and jumping over the barrier, it's amazing he's still here.

I wasn't a fan of the halo but it's undoubtedly saved a life today.

To walk away from that with minor injuries is a massive pat on the back for all involved in the safety of the drivers etc. The marshals where superb.

I believe he was in the car for over 10 seconds surrounded by a ball of fire.

 

[Des Head]

To walk away from that with minor injuries is a massive pat on the back for all involved in the safety of the drivers etc. The marshals where superb.

I believe he was in the car for over 10 seconds surrounded by a ball of fire.

They were mostly superb. When Perez caught fire near the end, a marshal pegged it across the track in front of Norris. I understand he was desperate to get there but **** me, you wouldn't catch me running across a track like that. That could have been nasty. And Stroll rolling upside down put me right on edge.

Same track next weekend, too. Different lay out, but still, I'm not looking forward to it.

 

[spesupersydera]

To walk away from that with minor injuries is a massive pat on the back for all involved in the safety of the drivers etc. The marshals where superb.

I believe he was in the car for over 10 seconds surrounded by a ball of fire.

Don't know if you'll remember this from 2010 IoM Senior TT? Guy Martin crashes at 170mph, bike explodes in flame chucking him thru the fireball and 1/4 mile down the road; his first words to the paramedic who runs to him is ''don't cut my effing leathers off'' - these car and bike racers don't all escape so lightly but, the one's that do? It's nothing short of a miracle ...

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[Qatartiger Cambridgetiger]

Don't know if you'll remember this from 2010 IoM Senior TT? Guy Martin crashes at 170mph, bike explodes in flame chucking him thru the fireball and 1/4 mile down the road; his first words to the paramedic who runs to him is ''don't cut my effing leathers off'' - these car and bike racers don't all escape so lightly but, the one's that do? It's nothing short of a miracle ...

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Sure do remember it amazing escape.

 

[Des Head]

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[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Looks like Hamilton will miss the next GP after a +ve Covid test.

As it’s all about the car & not the driver I’m sure his, as yet unnamed, replacement will secure pole & another win for Mercedes.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

Looks like Hamilton will miss the next GP after a +ve Covid test.

As it’s all about the car & not the driver I’m sure his, as yet unnamed, replacement will secure pole & another win for Mercedes.

I’ve had it so I’ll do it

 

[Chillo]

Firstly, you say Hamilton is not the best, how can you judge that when others who you think are better haven't been in the car?

Mercedes obviously think Hamilton is a top driver, as they have stuck with him for several years now. They are not stupid, they know he is consistently the best driver. Others like Verstappen for example on his day can be faster, but he takes risks, and as yet IMO is not consistent enough. Whether he will be only TWT, the World Championship is a marathon, not a sprint, and that is what the top teams look for in a driver.

In any sport, the best footballers go to the best teams and win the most trophy's, it's the same in Motor racing they go to the best teams and get the best cars, that's how life is.

I don't know why you have this negativity towards Hamilton, he has won 7 world championships, give the guy some credit.

i actually dont mind hamilton on the track
but mr aberdeen if you cant see much like when liverpool used to win the title every year and then man u took over years later the same applies in any sport, it gets boring with the same winner year in year out and you cant help but root for the underdog. add in the best car head and shoulders giving him an unfair advantage and its all too easy to just get pissed off with it all and him

fan boys like yourself must be able to see this. as this is why the majority dont want to give him the credit his results on paper deserve

put hamilton in a renault as an example for the last 7 yrs and put any one of 7 or 8 other drivers in a mercedes and THEY would be touted as the greatest driver ever.
if you cant see that then you are missing the whole point of my argument.

im saying much of his domination is because much like vettels time at the top down to the car
the car is making him look much better than he is. he used to make lots of errors tactically and disagreeing with his team and spitting his dummy out. button admitted hamilton was faster but knew how to beat him at times.

f1 got stupid with tyre management and fuel saving as important as out and out racing.
luckily for hamilton the mercedes was fantastic at both,
hiding hamiltons inability to be more than average at both of these (i admit crazy) aspects of race craft.

i actually think a lesser driver in his car with more focus would have gained better results, especially if they didnt try hanging out with the cool guyz making chunes....

hamiltons strength is undoubtedly as a saturday driver and i admit he is up there as one of the best
but come sunday he has a few traits that his car papers over. put him in a lesser car and they would surface and he would get impatient and take the risks he used to take and it would snowball, sulking lack of focus etc.
you cannot deny he is capable of that

if you like him you are probably blind to his faults
but in anything but a merc and they would be apparent
much like verstappens desperation to win in a lesser car and he feels obliged to be too aggressive and takes too many chances

i dont normally like aussies but put ricciardo in a mercedes alongside hamilton and we would see how great hamilton really is.

he showed the world how good vettel actually was.
but then webber had done that years earlier in the twilight of his career and leclerc as a young un has recently hammered the final nail in.

if hamilton had done it on a level playing field he would be the greatest
no doubt

 

[Chillo]

what an excellent opportunity for george russell to show the world exactly how good the mercedes is.
and bottas.
borrowed off williams to take hamiltons seat

his first drive and he should be nowhere

i will be watching with interest

 

[Des Head]

i actually dont mind hamilton on the track
but mr aberdeen if you cant see much like when liverpool used to win the title every year and then man u took over years later the same applies in any sport, it gets boring with the same winner year in year out and you cant help but root for the underdog. add in the best car head and shoulders giving him an unfair advantage and its all too easy to just get pissed off with it all and him

fan boys like yourself must be able to see this. as this is why the majority dont want to give him the credit his results on paper deserve

put hamilton in a renault as an example for the last 7 yrs and put any one of 7 or 8 other drivers in a mercedes and THEY would be touted as the greatest driver ever.
if you cant see that then you are missing the whole point of my argument.

im saying much of his domination is because much like vettels time at the top down to the car
the car is making him look much better than he is. he used to make lots of errors tactically and disagreeing with his team and spitting his dummy out. button admitted hamilton was faster but knew how to beat him at times.

f1 got stupid with tyre management and fuel saving as important as out and out racing.
luckily for hamilton the mercedes was fantastic at both,
hiding hamiltons inability to be more than average at both of these (i admit crazy) aspects of race craft.

i actually think a lesser driver in his car with more focus would have gained better results, especially if they didnt try hanging out with the cool guyz making chunes....

hamiltons strength is undoubtedly as a saturday driver and i admit he is up there as one of the best
but come sunday he has a few traits that his car papers over. put him in a lesser car and they would surface and he would get impatient and take the risks he used to take and it would snowball, sulking lack of focus etc.
you cannot deny he is capable of that

if you like him you are probably blind to his faults
but in anything but a merc and they would be apparent
much like verstappens desperation to win in a lesser car and he feels obliged to be too aggressive and takes too many chances

i dont normally like aussies but put ricciardo in a mercedes alongside hamilton and we would see how great hamilton really is.

he showed the world how good vettel actually was.
but then webber had done that years earlier in the twilight of his career and leclerc as a young un has recently hammered the final nail in.

if hamilton had done it on a level playing field he would be the greatest
no doubt

So many words, such little insight.

 

[dennisboothstash]

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Looks like Hamilton will miss the next GP after a +ve Covid test.

As it’s all about the car & not the driver I’m sure his, as yet unnamed, replacement will secure pole & another win for Mercedes.

If it’s properly wiped out then I’d give it a go.
Once round though...boring after that

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

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If it’s properly wiped out then I’d give it a go.
Once round though...boring after that

I’m no fan but would like to think the driver deserves more credit than has been offered on here.

 

[ThunderCityAFC]

I just can't understand how he can adore his father, but accuse his mother of systemic racism. He's a fortunate son, as Jon might say.

 

[bradymk2]

i actually dont mind hamilton on the track
but mr aberdeen if you cant see much like when liverpool used to win the title every year and then man u took over years later the same applies in any sport, it gets boring with the same winner year in year out and you cant help but root for the underdog. add in the best car head and shoulders giving him an unfair advantage and its all too easy to just get pissed off with it all and him

fan boys like yourself must be able to see this. as this is why the majority dont want to give him the credit his results on paper deserve

put hamilton in a renault as an example for the last 7 yrs and put any one of 7 or 8 other drivers in a mercedes and THEY would be touted as the greatest driver ever.
if you cant see that then you are missing the whole point of my argument.

im saying much of his domination is because much like vettels time at the top down to the car
the car is making him look much better than he is. he used to make lots of errors tactically and disagreeing with his team and spitting his dummy out. button admitted hamilton was faster but knew how to beat him at times.

f1 got stupid with tyre management and fuel saving as important as out and out racing.
luckily for hamilton the mercedes was fantastic at both,
hiding hamiltons inability to be more than average at both of these (i admit crazy) aspects of race craft.

i actually think a lesser driver in his car with more focus would have gained better results, especially if they didnt try hanging out with the cool guyz making chunes....

hamiltons strength is undoubtedly as a saturday driver and i admit he is up there as one of the best
but come sunday he has a few traits that his car papers over. put him in a lesser car and they would surface and he would get impatient and take the risks he used to take and it would snowball, sulking lack of focus etc.
you cannot deny he is capable of that

if you like him you are probably blind to his faults
but in anything but a merc and they would be apparent
much like verstappens desperation to win in a lesser car and he feels obliged to be too aggressive and takes too many chances

i dont normally like aussies but put ricciardo in a mercedes alongside hamilton and we would see how great hamilton really is.

he showed the world how good vettel actually was.
but then webber had done that years earlier in the twilight of his career and leclerc as a young un has recently hammered the final nail in.

if hamilton had done it on a level playing field he would be the greatest
no doubt

f1 got lucky with tyre management?
thats one of the biggest driving skills in the world
the reason hamilton destroys bottas on race pace is becasue he controls the tyres, its an incredible skill
the sharper you turn a corner, you put heat into the tyre which degrades it, less grip
one tiny lock up, shreds the tyre, meaning less grip
hamilton has always been incredible at it, but he's average at it?

a lesser driver would get better results cause hamilton is doing 'chunes'?
this is utter racism lol

hamiltons strength is race pace and not qualifying, hence why bottas can beat him in qualy
you are completely contradicting yourself in every way

you are listing his faults like its 2008 again, when yea he was a rookie who beat a two time world champion?


also qualifying is a huge skill but race pace, race pace you can learn with experience and only the greats have it, to be able to be fast over 50 laps, that is a skill the best have
but hamilton as i explained is a master at tyre management, more than you and i can comprehend
he's a master in rain or wet conditions, always has been
rosberg beat him once, when hamilton had a huge amount of mechanical issues, plus rosberg beat schumacher in the mercedes and rosberg retired, because he couldn't deal with the stress and pressure of competing against hamilton, he won once and quit, hamilton is relentless

listen, if you want to discredit hamilton, you need to try far harder than this incoherent jibberish
i saw you are a poster from 2011
i think you've had brain trauma, cause you type less coherently than i do when pissed

hamilton might be a **** or so, but he is one of the 'regular' guys, he didnt grow up rich, his father sacrificed everything to get him into karting, he got picked up by mclaren who paid for his early formula career that costs hundreds of thousands, hamiltons father couldnt afford that
but its the nature of motorsport

and imho, many people dislike hamilton cause he's mixed race
i genuinely believe it
if he was white, there'd be half the criticism
'how dare he say i save carbon footprint' etc
if he wasnt a hypocrite, hed quit it all and live in a shack
its passive racism
or he only pays tax that you couldnt pay in 10 life times, but no hes a tax dodger
he does what any single guy earning 40m a year does
target amazon and the like for your hate

 

[John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.]

f1 got lucky with tyre management?
thats one of the biggest driving skills in the world
the reason hamilton destroys bottas on race pace is becasue he controls the tyres, its an incredible skill
the sharper you turn a corner, you put heat into the tyre which degrades it, less grip
one tiny lock up, shreds the tyre, meaning less grip
hamilton has always been incredible at it, but he's average at it?

a lesser driver would get better results cause hamilton is doing 'chunes'?
this is utter racism lol

hamiltons strength is race pace and not qualifying, hence why bottas can beat him in qualy
you are completely contradicting yourself in every way

you are listing his faults like its 2008 again, when yea he was a rookie who beat a two time world champion?


also qualifying is a huge skill but race pace, race pace you can learn with experience and only the greats have it, to be able to be fast over 50 laps, that is a skill the best have
but hamilton as i explained is a master at tyre management, more than you and i can comprehend
he's a master in rain or wet conditions, always has been
rosberg beat him once, when hamilton had a huge amount of mechanical issues, plus rosberg beat schumacher in the mercedes and rosberg retired, because he couldn't deal with the stress and pressure of competing against hamilton, he won once and quit, hamilton is relentless

listen, if you want to discredit hamilton, you need to try far harder than this incoherent jibberish
i saw you are a poster from 2011
i think you've had brain trauma, cause you type less coherently than i do when pissed

hamilton might be a **** or so, but he is one of the 'regular' guys, he didnt grow up rich, his father sacrificed everything to get him into karting, he got picked up by mclaren who paid for his early formula career that costs hundreds of thousands, hamiltons father couldnt afford that
but its the nature of motorsport

and imho, many people dislike hamilton cause he's mixed race
i genuinely believe it
if he was white, there'd be half the criticism
'how dare he say i save carbon footprint' etc
if he wasnt a hypocrite, hed quit it all and live in a shack
its passive racism
or he only pays tax that you couldnt pay in 10 life times, but no hes a tax dodger
he does what any single guy earning 40m a year does
target amazon and the like for your hate

Some very good points you make. One thing many people are not aware of is how much input the driver has in the development of a car. When Hamilton left McClaren many were questioning his move, as Mercedes didn't have such a great history in F1. But along with his input into the design, set up and as you pointed out management of tyres, he was instrumental in making the car competitive.

 

[bradymk2]

Some very good points you make. One thing many people are not aware of is how much input the driver has in the development of a car. When Hamilton left McClaren many were questioning his move, as Mercedes didn't have such a great history in F1. But along with his input into the design, set up and as you pointed out management of tyres, he was instrumental in making the car competitive.

i genuinely believe if hamilton was white, it would be far less criticism, its passive racism and i stand by it
never once did i see criticism for jenson buttons monaco home

 

[TwoWrights]

George Russell has heavy links to Mercedes, and at some point could be a replacement for Bottas.
I fully expect he'll do well this weekend. He'll also have the full backing of Barchullona!

 

[Barchullona]

George Russell has heavy links to Mercedes, and at some point could be a replacement for Bottas.
I fully expect he'll do well this weekend. He'll also have the full backing of Barchullona!

Why would he have my backing?

 

[Porthmeor Tiger]

Who is the best driver is always open to the argument of who has the best car, who has the best tyres etc etc., What we can say about Lewis H. is that he is the most successful driver in formula 1. history. He has better wins stats, more poles, more wins, and equal number of world titles with the potential to win more still. He is British and the colour of his skin matters not one jot to me. He are lucky to have such a champion and I salute him.